From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 895F51382C5 for ; Tue, 4 May 2021 22:24:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DAA1CE08F3; Tue, 4 May 2021 22:24:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ej1-x630.google.com (mail-ej1-x630.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::630]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id ABA51E08F2 for ; Tue, 4 May 2021 22:24:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ej1-x630.google.com with SMTP id n2so15576104ejy.7 for ; Tue, 04 May 2021 15:24:50 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gentoo-org.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-transfer-encoding; bh=oLaiMhWp2Y7FQPHfoQLFEtDv2B5XFx98SvW1CkdlBko=; b=uNtdDwvO8WBfpsxRxTFQB1SOW9atNlMVX5BP3iQ1eqJtrTBv+ppWxSn95czcGBlhqZ d1aSvARKVPsBu+/k6EOFlr3AVTRkjftCCuv7iuflMkCb0UHg1i2hdb9RbP+HKPfiUX2T dmqJG9Flry0GpW5FrI6KHs6FCi6bXsfqW2OAG8os53xNJJ8U3wxyHBf+DSQbXmyZR0JR TC9dJmG2QQbAxRJ8AFMBaaDuCmEur5GEowcknidSSxUdTDvflKp0cBRqIMsi/P/blY3S Gia0UGZP+PemG5I3nz0emFHARX1sPIQG4Na7+0sz9UB3u53p6QeZcSKf5gPpQAbo9ejj 8E1w== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=oLaiMhWp2Y7FQPHfoQLFEtDv2B5XFx98SvW1CkdlBko=; b=TVZea7TdbWzaKOMDCCZLxEb5Q78QngbG4CdVKkgUljnQWM+6eeorK5FBeRMMhU4i6N wLkKqB1XOOsgpP5CitwOuV4n6raO6kwdbuj/b01eObP8ImuBHNEyyczU+NJuSor1omeL mV/wpaMiCkn6B3GutcD9GmRjoVsJfRb+5zc6gVuD7sNgmmLcXctdkbNUky2KLdwwMSUR Kmh8eK/9MrxBXMwh02ChvPpuL21J7PwezMXqAH6gFmrYGfxPoPtRunQlJWmcaPBcS6X+ PcAR2j6+BgNB36JDUkshZ3ZaeMaJdJcrzewbYJQ6PM5rtOtCdGSds1vjV5tGTuY1IJzG DMAg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531ZxrdU2TSGIsTW1MdEGZZwUnRuhC7V13pChci3dVa4pdRfobyQ WENQvAAHuDK7lLwr8oPDEvL397nXe1/f97s5jjSplG3vYy6Epaeb X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzD5xamm0wYFN12zJMWYjjDbzLvyp7gzoMNLB9cIl4S/3olCuWYhKkdt3iQAFmdQgHkhop4YZ943o76WFMDgYw= X-Received: by 2002:a17:906:685:: with SMTP id u5mr24279068ejb.449.1620167088817; Tue, 04 May 2021 15:24:48 -0700 (PDT) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <4775262.irdbgypaU6@pinacolada> In-Reply-To: From: Alec Warner Date: Tue, 4 May 2021 15:24:37 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] call for agenda items -- council meeting 2021-05-09 To: gentoo-project Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: a81a29e7-adf0-4e95-a86a-f1fa8af9494b X-Archives-Hash: 7bde430895357578e00f52129e277598 On Sun, May 2, 2021 at 12:07 PM Thomas Deutschmann wrot= e: > > Hi, > > On 2021-05-01 17:14, Andreas K. Huettel wrote: > > There's rumors going around that Agostino's tinderbox basically > > already burned through our entire 2021 AWS Open Source credit budget > > and has overdrawn it significantly. > > > > Independent of whether this rumor is true or not, I would like to > > discuss > > * how we can avoid such a situation in the future, > > * and how we can fairly handle the distribution of limited infra > > resources that may end up costing us money > > Is this really a topic for council? > > Isn't foundation an independent body and if someone requests funding > from foundation and will get it approved... > > Or in other words: Can council veto against funding requests the > foundation received and wants to approve? > > If not, I really see nothing to discuss for council and non-foundation > members. It's their money... I tend to say the same thing every year[0] but I will repeat what I wrote in my 2020 president's letter[1] --- Thirdly, I want to discuss the spending of Gentoo Foundation=E2=80=99s capi= tal. We end fiscal 2020 with an excess of $140,000 in cash equivalents (cash on hand, paypal, etc.) This is a significant pile of capital that we could deploy in support of the Gentoo community. In the past, the board was essentially unwilling to spend large amounts of capital due to the unknown tax liabilities that the Foundation faced in previous years. However since we have since resolved those liabilities we are in a stronger position to fund new programs. However, it=E2=80=99s unclear exactly how we should depl= oy this capital. I again implore the community to suggest ways that the money can be put to good use in order to facilitate the mission of Gentoo and to further its development. --- The foundation is nominally prohibited from spending money itself (as doing so may 'set the direction of gentoo development' or otherwise have undue influence on the project.) The Foundation relies on people to file funding requests; the Foundation itself only has 3 programs: Infrastructure (to fund Gentoo infrastructure operations), Nitrokey (to fund keys for developers) and Foundation Operations (almost all of this to pay for our CPA and fees necessary to operate the Foundation. Please file funding requests if you want things funded. If you think we should work with the council to decide what things to fund I'm happy to discuss with them any and all items. -A [0] https://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-project/message/f86654c9350cceecdec7= fda93cb27aca [1] https://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-nfp/message/a5bc711fddc853cb8344c8df= d1337b3a > > > > -- > Regards, > Thomas Deutschmann / Gentoo Linux Developer > fpr: C4DD 695F A713 8F24 2AA1 5638 5849 7EE5 1D5D 74A5 >