From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 73F07138334 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2018 01:55:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 20EBEE0877; Fri, 1 Jun 2018 01:55:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-lf0-x242.google.com (mail-lf0-x242.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c07::242]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AC892E0849 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2018 01:55:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-lf0-x242.google.com with SMTP id y72-v6so12485630lfd.2 for ; Thu, 31 May 2018 18:55:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=r9w0TzLhPlfFanKDa98k47ZnxJgkN/t9VIqzoO/W9Kw=; b=IIYn1oPrh8ZTKXREqBoJTRp/upvXddajbhzCwNx6bGiG9dEm37qFGnn+V53q/131fu lqqQvAOON6auaf3JKVRDal7hTpRhxu14/M5v9N9PbN4vdVRmenpWXa7WLq6xvOh4REu2 rDW+akxv0MGLOurBQEv4FHIynvkMPhD5FMV1GpAA7TXefJG6DVJkX0O2m5zBu3WDkLjH EnTWm20c8ocDyTEp1MRBkZrdYjr1NiBe1INglk1CUGfAP8ExCFKxf3CkZIy5qRDpPi2/ rYhobXSSxOgtB8MEQb0Wi1/JRHDMYXdGz14F81htf8j2db2c+kJp6T8r/hkAkqcm/wS4 j+CQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=r9w0TzLhPlfFanKDa98k47ZnxJgkN/t9VIqzoO/W9Kw=; b=s2466K6K+VhO7PLiNSyM4FgBMOGoyZ4zQBbIV8LVvQ/90Q0vtxXjnyAtbIz9uCXHI8 7Zr+ReTXbV7PIybwT7/flKXKb1PsJZ9+MmsGQoZ4qqhsjfPVBQ7W3eiiANJH51UyWCxo sbpvEsERH2Bk++d7hLLKv6VcqD9hJvUkK2utviyvnudej9XY0TC947mXblsX77NUOwxV DYv9twmp8NkNtVPu3d0mxYVDudA6b8HJSF5yuVWVQWqZdS+L8c46w8cK8j32gvFqshgy HAyZcmBWGIaxGdKuDwNWe4HlPnXuaXzovAZsJcpI27bURodK8zpoY2UYr59UOcmrEcXx s5RA== X-Gm-Message-State: ALKqPwfhCv+vDQA4bSHwKBWG0nmM/MjBKPE8RUXEfj7pNJAwi7bA2x2I LDzL7ZPFLEXzQcT14eyyDfPV4HKbnOu7ZiRZBu0= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ADUXVKIDlQ3KrWMijALkJ76F3O+5M1LBSTTRtbDlZSesXb8aAiuzTFc4JCRVIYge0roGt/jxAty1i4FtnECHCQ5NqWE= X-Received: by 2002:a2e:8759:: with SMTP id q25-v6mr6571588ljj.66.1527818111469; Thu, 31 May 2018 18:55:11 -0700 (PDT) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 2002:a2e:2b5b:0:0:0:0:0 with HTTP; Thu, 31 May 2018 18:55:11 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <23310.46809.293787.611345@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> <20180530182136.GB18004@kroah.com> <23311.6978.886855.373818@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> <535aa147-a5b3-2578-fb4c-b59fc85af155@gentoo.org> <80051242-f4dd-329b-654f-c9052631be5b@gentoo.org> From: R0b0t1 Date: Thu, 31 May 2018 20:55:11 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Poll: Would you sign a Contributer License Agreement? To: gentoo-project Cc: Jonas Stein Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Archives-Salt: ac52564e-aa62-41c0-8147-83a4310c3472 X-Archives-Hash: 3e0a289c9e4008645a8ba998d8ace047 On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 6:52 PM, Raymond Jennings wrote: > I refuse to sign anything. > > If the GPL works as intended, then anyone using my work would > themselves be making a derived work of their own for which they > themselves could enforce the GPL. > It is for this reason I never understood the point of contributor agreements for open source projects. Even the FSF's justification, so that they may pursue GPL violations without requiring you present, seems to fall apart as various Linux kernel contributors have gone after companies on their own for profit without the consent of Mr. Torvalds, the other contributors, or the Linux Foundation. Cheers, R0b0t1 > > On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 3:27 PM, Kristian Fiskerstrand wrote: >> On 06/01/2018 12:24 AM, Jonas Stein wrote: >>>> We simply cannot. We have files in the Gentoo repository that are not >>>> under a free software license, and for these we need an extra clause. >>>> Otherwise we would have to specify in the policy that certain commits >>>> are excepted from the requirement of a Signed-off-by line, and IMHO >>>> that would be a much worse solution. >>> That is a good point. >>> Which files do not have a free software license in the tree? >> >> The best example is likely most license files themselves that are not >> malleable. >> >> -- >> Kristian Fiskerstrand >> OpenPGP keyblock reachable at hkp://pool.sks-keyservers.net >> fpr:94CB AFDD 3034 5109 5618 35AA 0B7F 8B60 E3ED FAE3 >> >