From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F3E61381F3 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2012 12:03:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id F179E21C051 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2012 12:03:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from svr-us4.tirtonadi.com (svr-us4.tirtonadi.com [69.65.43.212]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F1DB421C00D for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2012 09:44:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-pb0-f53.google.com ([209.85.160.53]:37778) by svr-us4.tirtonadi.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1TYZVy-0020l0-J6 for gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2012 16:44:10 +0700 Received: by mail-pb0-f53.google.com with SMTP id jt11so254786pbb.40 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2012 01:44:07 -0800 (PST) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.68.193.167 with SMTP id hp7mr24909168pbc.124.1352886247278; Wed, 14 Nov 2012 01:44:07 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.68.233.136 with HTTP; Wed, 14 Nov 2012 01:44:07 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.68.233.136 with HTTP; Wed, 14 Nov 2012 01:44:07 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <50A1B335.2080907@gentoo.org> Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 16:44:07 +0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] With regard to udev stabilization From: Pandu Poluan To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b15aebf30c86304ce7160b3 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - svr-us4.tirtonadi.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - lists.gentoo.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - poluan.info X-Archives-Salt: d12d69f9-7cc0-451c-9fa6-aa6d4d3a0b18 X-Archives-Hash: e0cabc525d94e5859c7970d82eb33a81 --047d7b15aebf30c86304ce7160b3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Nov 14, 2012 4:08 PM, "Ben de Groot" wrote: > > On 13 November 2012 10:40, Richard Yao wrote: >> >> Dear Everyone, >> >> It is no secret that many of us are unhappy with the direction that udev >> has taken under the leadership of the systemd developers. That includes >> Linus Torvalds, who is 'leery of the fact that the udev maintenance >> seems to have gone into some "crazy mode" where they have made changes >> that were known to be problematic, and are pure and utter stupidity.' >> >> https://lkml.org/lkml/2012/10/2/505 >> >> After speaking with several other Gentoo developers that share Linus' >> concerns, I have decided to form a team to fork udev. Our plan is to >> eliminate the separate /usr requirement from our fork, among other >> things. We will announce the project later this week. > > > > I applaud this initiative. I would recommend you contact, and try to work together with, the existing fork of udev, which is available in layman's udev overlay. There is a corresponding thread on our forums. > Great! So that means, we already have something to show to other distros, then? And we already have ryao, blueness, and chainsaw all expressing their desire of forking udev (apologies if I left anyone). Hmm... need a roll-call, I guess... Rgds, -- --047d7b15aebf30c86304ce7160b3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8


On Nov 14, 2012 4:08 PM, "Ben de Groot" <yngwin@gentoo.org> wrote:
>
> On 13 November 2012 10:40, Richard Yao <ryao@gentoo.org> wrote:
>>
>> Dear Everyone,
>>
>> It is no secret that many of us are unhappy with the direction that udev
>> has taken under the leadership of the systemd developers. That includes
>> Linus Torvalds, who is 'leery of the fact that the udev maintenance
>> seems to have gone into some "crazy mode" where they have made changes
>> that were known to be problematic, and are pure and utter stupidity.'
>>
>> https://lkml.org/lkml/2012/10/2/505
>>
>> After speaking with several other Gentoo developers that share Linus'
>> concerns, I have decided to form a team to fork udev. Our plan is to
>> eliminate the separate /usr requirement from our fork, among other
>> things. We will announce the project later this week.
>
>
>
> I applaud this initiative. I would recommend you contact, and try to work together with, the existing fork of udev, which is available in layman's udev overlay. There is a corresponding thread on our forums.
>

Great! So that means, we already have something to show to other distros, then?

And we already have ryao, blueness, and chainsaw all expressing their desire of forking udev (apologies if I left anyone).

Hmm... need a roll-call, I guess...

Rgds,
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