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Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] With regard to udev stabilization
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On Nov 14, 2012 4:08 PM, "Ben de Groot" <yngwin@gentoo.org> wrote:
>
> On 13 November 2012 10:40, Richard Yao <ryao@gentoo.org> wrote:
>>
>> Dear Everyone,
>>
>> It is no secret that many of us are unhappy with the direction that udev
>> has taken under the leadership of the systemd developers. That includes
>> Linus Torvalds, who is 'leery of the fact that the udev maintenance
>> seems to have gone into some "crazy mode" where they have made changes
>> that were known to be problematic, and are pure and utter stupidity.'
>>
>> https://lkml.org/lkml/2012/10/2/505
>>
>> After speaking with several other Gentoo developers that share Linus'
>> concerns, I have decided to form a team to fork udev. Our plan is to
>> eliminate the separate /usr requirement from our fork, among other
>> things. We will announce the project later this week.
>
>
>
> I applaud this initiative. I would recommend you contact, and try to work
together with, the existing fork of udev, which is available in layman's
udev overlay. There is a corresponding thread on our forums.
>

Great! So that means, we already have something to show to other distros,
then?

And we already have ryao, blueness, and chainsaw all expressing their
desire of forking udev (apologies if I left anyone).

Hmm... need a roll-call, I guess...

Rgds,
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<p><br>
On Nov 14, 2012 4:08 PM, &quot;Ben de Groot&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:yngwin@gentoo.org">yngwin@gentoo.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; On 13 November 2012 10:40, Richard Yao &lt;<a href="mailto:ryao@gentoo.org">ryao@gentoo.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Dear Everyone,<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; It is no secret that many of us are unhappy with the direction that udev<br>
&gt;&gt; has taken under the leadership of the systemd developers. That includes<br>
&gt;&gt; Linus Torvalds, who is &#39;leery of the fact that the udev maintenance<br>
&gt;&gt; seems to have gone into some &quot;crazy mode&quot; where they have made changes<br>
&gt;&gt; that were known to be problematic, and are pure and utter stupidity.&#39;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; <a href="https://lkml.org/lkml/2012/10/2/505">https://lkml.org/lkml/2012/10/2/505</a><br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; After speaking with several other Gentoo developers that share Linus&#39;<br>
&gt;&gt; concerns, I have decided to form a team to fork udev. Our plan is to<br>
&gt;&gt; eliminate the separate /usr requirement from our fork, among other<br>
&gt;&gt; things. We will announce the project later this week.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; I applaud this initiative. I would recommend you contact, and try to work together with, the existing fork of udev, which is available in layman&#39;s udev overlay. There is a corresponding thread on our forums.<br>

&gt;</p>
<p>Great! So that means, we already have something to show to other distros, then? </p>
<p>And we already have ryao, blueness, and chainsaw all expressing their desire of forking udev (apologies if I left anyone). </p>
<p>Hmm... need a roll-call, I guess... </p>
<p>Rgds, <br>
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