From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 769661381F3 for ; Sat, 25 May 2013 10:19:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0FD73E0B49; Sat, 25 May 2013 10:19:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0DF89E0B48 for ; Sat, 25 May 2013 10:19:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-vb0-x230.google.com (mail-vb0-x230.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400c:c02::230]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: scarabeus) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C746733DF78 for ; Sat, 25 May 2013 10:19:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-vb0-f48.google.com with SMTP id w8so2766950vbf.35 for ; Sat, 25 May 2013 03:18:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=sgnxyVIo1yhVh+HwgqlvvPYI1xvrOFI4rCwdPPFNc8M=; b=hYMGpqe70rHVpFniwPhXP1pd6kTcPEGu3jCHBol1hQJEzpIuNJNjjR4EnOlvmJpGob 0tiacWflzWesljMaIBxaEARNQpeQL8xUx67tDjxD3pDT/fMF8KLTn5qMQrEjfrtQoU/t UqBWGP5tFLGR8Uh/72B6OR0YHyB2PplqtjhOMBMggIDYi1C5yfMd0PmZyL3Me257jChC F2ZoCIfrSO4Rv2JBGah9SpVZpgKmmralmPtyOaC76w6rX1/y2jzJeO52FtbuYDNgTRN8 h475lR71qVdrynTlFpm4zLRrxA65YrDp1HiBEh2Sf1xZBEnpd4VUHz8hZ+Ps4U6Hf9Bf JpcA== Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.58.50.198 with SMTP id e6mr10869739veo.30.1369477138897; Sat, 25 May 2013 03:18:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.139.144 with HTTP; Sat, 25 May 2013 03:18:58 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 25 May 2013 12:18:58 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Gentoo Code of Conduct From: =?UTF-8?B?VG9tw6HFoSBDaHbDoXRhbA==?= To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e011824946493d504dd883ec9 X-Archives-Salt: a52784b7-a275-4266-b3ef-7c2793665959 X-Archives-Hash: 1fdfbb6716631b58c47b2a41454b0262 --089e011824946493d504dd883ec9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 2013/5/24 Markos Chandras > > I like what Tom=C3=A1=C5=A1 proposed and I am in favor of the new CoC. > > I also believe the council should not try to enforce the CoC. This is > something for devrel/userrel to do. The council should be the judge if > someone disagrees with > what devrel/userrel decided so he/she can appeal to another authority. > But for the day-to-day conflicts, I see no reason for the Council to > get involved. Imho this will > introduce another layer of bureaucracy without good reasons. > > I think you just wrongly understood what Rich ment with the council. It was more about situation where member is in both in council and devrel, where he should not be at first decision and only be in appealing organ (council). But if other guys from council think it is no biggie we can drop the sentence. I am really indiferent about it. Tom --089e011824946493d504dd883ec9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
2013/5/24 Markos Chandras <hwoarang@gentoo.org><= /span>

I like what Tom=C3=A1=C5=A1 proposed and I am i= n favor of the new CoC.

I also believe the council should not try to enforce the CoC. This is
something for devrel/userrel to do. The council should be the judge if
someone disagrees with
what devrel/userrel decided so he/she can appeal to another authority.
But for the day-to-day conflicts, I see no reason for the Council to
get involved. Imho this will
introduce another layer of bureaucracy without good reasons.

I think you just wrongly understood what Rich ment with th= e council.

It was more about situation= where member is in both in council and devrel, where he should not be at f= irst decision and only be in appealing organ (council).
But if other guys from council think it is no biggie we can drop= the sentence. I am really indiferent about it.

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