From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 309F21381F3 for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2012 12:04:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B68FB21C022 for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2012 12:04:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3F52AE019D for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2012 11:55:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-pa0-f53.google.com (mail-pa0-f53.google.com [209.85.220.53]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: scarabeus) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5C1A733D948 for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2012 11:55:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-pa0-f53.google.com with SMTP id bj3so2358806pad.40 for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2012 03:55:52 -0800 (PST) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.68.135.101 with SMTP id pr5mr23252006pbb.140.1353153352168; Sat, 17 Nov 2012 03:55:52 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.68.38.162 with HTTP; Sat, 17 Nov 2012 03:55:52 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <50A76C95.1040904@gentoo.org> References: <50A76C95.1040904@gentoo.org> Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2012 12:55:52 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Feedback on recruitment process From: =?UTF-8?B?VG9tw6HFoSBDaHbDoXRhbA==?= To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b10d1ffe1f44704ceaf9034 X-Archives-Salt: 7e2570f4-6981-417d-9d6b-39fec40d2000 X-Archives-Hash: 535cda2131b40b5fe7237abaaf70dd1d --047d7b10d1ffe1f44704ceaf9034 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Hi, looking on the question and given that I am mentoring someone again here are my hints so far: 12 (diff between depend/rdepend), put there also pdepend, we end up asking on it anyway 15 (fpic) not sure if we really should have this in quiz as the issue is not that common nowdays 25 (patch eapi0 and 2) basically we should ask here only about latest eapi nowdays, we expect the trainee to read the eapis and with the amount we have now even if he knows 0 and 2 only he is screwed :-) 31 (the head and tail question) drop or make it asbstract to actually ask why all calls should be done in posix way not in gnu extensions Thats it for now Cheers Tom 2012/11/17 Markos Chandras > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA512 > > Good morning, > > Most of you have probably noticed that the recruitment.gentoo.org > webapp is gone[1]. We(recruiters) are in the process of reworking and > re-evaluating the recruitment process. Right now, I am asking you to > comment on the quizzes. Tell us if you think that some of the > questions are obsolete, or too , or outdated etc. Moreover, if you > have a new question in mind that you would like to see in the quizzes > please let me know. Your feedback is valuable for us in order to come > up with a more up2date process that would satisfy the upcoming > developers, you as mentors and us as recruiters. I would like to ask > you to refrain from the usual "oh git will solve everything" > discussions that will drive this thread out of topic. At this point > I'd like only developers to comment on this as some of them have been > mentors and certainly all of them have done the quizzes. Users, former > developers etc are welcome to join but at this point we need to gather > feedback from people who have actually gone through this process. > For your convenience, I've merged both quizzes on a Google doc[2]. > > [1]http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.devel.announce/1783 > [2] > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1pqq0ROBc7yggLRsYUKhReYQL68k1XYFZlvfqI4yAt6k/edit > > - -- > Regards, > Markos Chandras / Gentoo Linux Developer / Key ID: B4AFF2C2 > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) > > iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJQp2yVAAoJEPqDWhW0r/LCUr8P/1ySBgGo5gP0t/ZI67rdUqMj > /eEyjvBtp2hNuUhTLl5FbH388GkQRJBf5yN80IVkuu2HUxHpk+2SIhaBUMwJrkpH > V6lMxSpV7dOfjxQtjAVCVFU0NxrjZZUl/8ChTrEI8VOej94wqFZFf61fBpg22isu > VrltWeuPrVoldUKa0cZmiP+19gy43E6VsURY/trqKFnmhZlXg4sszGteg1xkM22w > m/cc/3QPo877Y2OsLjq9gJ1rIDg58OcvHWJmAZcXUPEW5DfGVIYdu7JPdA9GA5b+ > /VaPAHJAFBbSle985GsGw9N2q0zfikH6HJZk3SYXkW2edB7sqRh7EayIyfNNE46E > DCblURUHxtq1kwAmkDcJuF7WuvVo7Md+P3XjBfoou6J4DS7/NStyMsoG3hZClum7 > Bg63B2htGPibLDmONq6vcvUD7l+75msbZVGw75k0XSLkqT8xrTrkjot1l5tZfw7r > dX/FC6VnzO314nafhhMCSi8fEcR/NpbaBr+69hNtK056F8sVybQUnbelPneTtj/v > tTxoe9YNDybrdPSaaHfQEwy7tCG7B8cQgH7nncYdkHvRyAUzDttjgHV1OtQPitft > bpyHFchQcMc33og1lP4GDrqT+Nz9oaxMeqDTUqxL0Dsq95TqYn/ih2I6O3knMXvV > 1hmQX2bdw453dwbvN5Qp > =Qn4F > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > --047d7b10d1ffe1f44704ceaf9034 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi,
looking on the question and given that I am mentoring someone again= here are my hints so far:

12 (diff between depend= /rdepend), put there also pdepend, we end up asking on it anyway

15 (fpic) not sure if we really should have this in quiz as = the issue is not that common nowdays

25 (patch eap= i0 and 2) basically we should ask here only about latest eapi nowdays, we e= xpect the trainee to read the eapis and with the amount we have now even if= he knows 0 and 2 only he is screwed :-)

31 (the head and tail question) drop or make it asbstra= ct to actually ask why all calls should be done in posix way not in gnu ext= ensions

Thats it for now

Cheers

Tom

2012/11/17 Markos Chandras &l= t;hwoarang@gentoo.= org>
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Good morning,

Most of you have probably noticed that the recruitment.gentoo.org
webapp is gone[1]. We(recruiters) are in the process of reworking and
re-evaluating the recruitment process. Right now, I am asking you to
comment on the quizzes. Tell us if you think that some of the
questions are obsolete, or too , or outdated etc. Moreover, if you
have a new question in mind that you would like to see in the quizzes
please let me know. Your feedback is valuable for us in order to come
up with a more up2date process that would satisfy the upcoming
developers, you as mentors and us as recruiters. I would like to ask
you to refrain from the usual "oh git will solve everything"
discussions that will drive this thread out of topic. At this point
I'd like only developers to comment on this as some of them have been mentors and certainly all of them have done the quizzes. Users, former
developers etc are welcome to join but at this point we need to gather
feedback from people who have actually gone through this process.
For your convenience, I've merged both quizzes on a Google doc[2].

[1]http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.devel.annou= nce/1783
[2]https://docs.google.com/document= /d/1pqq0ROBc7yggLRsYUKhReYQL68k1XYFZlvfqI4yAt6k/edit

- --
Regards,
Markos Chandras / Gentoo Linux Developer / Key ID: B4AFF2C2
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