From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1QLb98-00052P-OA for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sun, 15 May 2011 13:14:10 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A68021C0CD; Sun, 15 May 2011 13:13:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from svr-us4.tirtonadi.com (unknown [69.65.43.212]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81EDD1C0CD for ; Sun, 15 May 2011 13:13:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-iy0-f181.google.com ([209.85.210.181]) by svr-us4.tirtonadi.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QLb8U-0023vv-23 for gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org; Sun, 15 May 2011 20:13:30 +0700 Received: by iyb26 with SMTP id 26so4209687iyb.40 for ; Sun, 15 May 2011 06:13:24 -0700 (PDT) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.42.220.70 with SMTP id hx6mr134910icb.322.1305465204062; Sun, 15 May 2011 06:13:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.42.227.198 with HTTP; Sun, 15 May 2011 06:13:24 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4DCFAB15.3070901@gentoo.org> References: <4D73AB04.8050301@gentoo.org> <4DC98BCF.7080403@gentoo.org> <20110510205612.GD30373@comet.mayo.edu> <4DCFAB15.3070901@gentoo.org> Date: Sun, 15 May 2011 20:13:24 +0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Re: Arch teams Resources (round 2) - General issues From: Pandu Poluan To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - svr-us4.tirtonadi.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - lists.gentoo.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - poluan.info X-Archives-Salt: X-Archives-Hash: 4ae6e0f2d701157ebd99895e270f11bb On 2011-05-15, "Pawe=C5=82 Hajdan, Jr." wrote: > On 5/10/11 10:56 PM, Donnie Berkholz wrote: >> The reason non-x86/amd64 architectures are so close to x86/amd64 is that >> people using "alternative" archs rarely fail to install. The x86/amd64 >> numbers start out about 2=E2=80=933x higher at the beginning of the hand= book, >> but most of them don't complete it. > > I just thought about a different possible explanation. When I'm setting > up new chroots or other test installs, I frequently only look up > information from the first pages of the handbook, like what's the exact > command to unpack the stage or what's the right order of steps. Setting > up the logger, cron and so on usually doesn't require referring to the > handbook. > ... and there are people like me who prints out the handbook once every handbook change. I'd use the exact same printout for, let's see, 7-8 installations. So, my guess is that every 'handbook read' for x86/amd64 might represent more than one installs. >> It's tough to know how long an installation sticks around, but that many >> new installs per day is pretty impressive. > > Yeah, and also it looks like the interest in arches like sparc, ppc, > hppa and so on is much higher than what I expected. That's great! > > IMO, the only way to get a precise number is to have a 'call-home' script every install. But of course there's this question of ethics and privacy... -- Pandu E Poluan - IT Optimizer My website: http://pandu.poluan.info/