From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6CE7013832E for ; Fri, 5 Aug 2016 17:31:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 829EF21C084; Fri, 5 Aug 2016 17:31:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EB4F321C082 for ; Fri, 5 Aug 2016 17:31:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.100.0.6] (host-37-191-220-247.lynet.no [37.191.220.247]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: k_f) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 31E4A3406AD for ; Fri, 5 Aug 2016 17:31:39 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Call for agenda items - Council meeting 2016-08-14 References: <2e11e445-c25b-b7f2-def1-99aed92308b6@gentoo.org> <20160804162443.GA7048@whubbs1.gaikai.biz> To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org From: Kristian Fiskerstrand Message-ID: <971d2394-58dc-74e9-416c-90b3f9aaacb5@gentoo.org> Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2016 19:31:33 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20160804162443.GA7048@whubbs1.gaikai.biz> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="wE7M4H3qFfObfCouC4xw9r6t2uJxsOi2K" X-Archives-Salt: 9aebf5e7-c7e6-44ca-8717-80f8cd7405c2 X-Archives-Hash: 9b1cdf36bffe189f2e1b999f587e6346 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --wE7M4H3qFfObfCouC4xw9r6t2uJxsOi2K Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="giV8iDbT48N1PlstTonnhPS6MH8V82QGr" From: Kristian Fiskerstrand Reply-To: k_f@gentoo.org To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Message-ID: <971d2394-58dc-74e9-416c-90b3f9aaacb5@gentoo.org> Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Call for agenda items - Council meeting 2016-08-14 References: <2e11e445-c25b-b7f2-def1-99aed92308b6@gentoo.org> <20160804162443.GA7048@whubbs1.gaikai.biz> In-Reply-To: <20160804162443.GA7048@whubbs1.gaikai.biz> --giV8iDbT48N1PlstTonnhPS6MH8V82QGr Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 08/04/2016 06:24 PM, William Hubbs wrote: > I feel that our stable tree is so far behind on all > architectures that we are doing our stable users a disservice, so I > would like to open up a discussion here, and maybe some policy changes > at the next meeting. Far behind isn't necessarily a problem as long as it doesn't have bugs, in particular security related ones. Updating too often (without a good reason) can also be annoying enough. >=20 > Ultimately, I think we need some form of automated stabilization, e.g. > if a package version sits in ~ for 30 days and there are no blockers at= > that point, the new version should go automatically to stable on all > architectures where there is a previous stable version. I LOUDLY disagree. The stable tree should not be compromised by such automation, it is already bad enough without proper use-testing in some cases. Stable isn't only about building properly. --=20 Kristian Fiskerstrand OpenPGP certificate reachable at hkp://pool.sks-keyservers.net fpr:94CB AFDD 3034 5109 5618 35AA 0B7F 8B60 E3ED FAE3 --giV8iDbT48N1PlstTonnhPS6MH8V82QGr-- --wE7M4H3qFfObfCouC4xw9r6t2uJxsOi2K Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEcBAEBCgAGBQJXpM11AAoJECULev7WN52FxtIH/jAm6igIZ7cr/Ed8v4KMBCWX LxbuAOEijgd83kc5BrGYF9yljFEbExLtd9M5SLSosgpLbNgSsKxi4jiBPaskQA2+ Ih3iEjwku5SxnlcbBSfwFsbwWVLMyQdltUsDo6w0EiJoNXZ6aEs7954V93pC6jK9 s7ka6wKqOdYMFBjCy5ye0RTaietdU+I2OMp7fzNK20jlyBlcEzOr0UgRtyY3mupG tsrvm9LMytYqlbIspJJWIuwQ+UTsRrmLkCUWZU8IwCPsfgwkirhy1BBll9lUXZVq KL5iaxufbKvaXFeqHMYEAKhbTYlYDpE6GutjbW096rfBVjg+sFxteO8L1jGBh58= =OCMx -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --wE7M4H3qFfObfCouC4xw9r6t2uJxsOi2K--