On 13/02/18 00:13, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 6:40 PM, M. J. Everitt wrote: >> On 12/02/18 23:02, Ulrich Mueller wrote: >>> Can you provide us with an example when such a scenario has happened >>> in the past 12 years of council, or is the above purely hypothetical? >>> Because in the latter case it is not an actual problem that needs to >>> be solved. >>> >>> It is not a game of Nomic that we're playing here, but we are trying >>> to run a distro. IMHO precluding council members from participating in >>> projects isn't helpful. Or do we really want a council that is sitting >>> in an ivory tower, completely detached from the daily distro work? >>> >> Uhm, what's the difference .. the council already live in their own land >> separate from most of the developers, and definitely from the user >> community at large ? >> >> Or at least, such is the perception .. [don't shoot the messenger and >> all that] >> > Such is your perception. Most developers just cast their votes, and > hence the same council members keep getting re-elected. I doubt that > would happen if most developers considered them aloof, especially > since the Council has always attracted a significant number of > election candidates. > > You can't judge something like this by mailing list posts. > My synopsis is gathered from a number of conversations, Rich, and definitely not the noise that emanates from both developers and non-developers on /any/ of the mailing lists ..