On 14/11/18 20:02, Patrick McLean wrote: > > It would also discourage developers under deadlines from contributing > upstream rather than just adding to a local private repository. There > are some companies that strongly encourage their employees to upstream > any work done on an open source project, if any signifigant contribution > turns in to a git hsitory deep-dive, then they may opt to not > contribute at all, especially if they are under a deadline. > > This discussion keeps me wondering whether Gentoo wants to make it easy > and painless to accept outside contribution (or coprorate > contribution), or if they want to make it so painful for corporations > to contribute that most opt not to do it at all. I personally think > that the more developer time that can spent on improving Gentoo, the > better. If increasing the developers fixing bugs and adding features > requires accepting some extra lines (or one _very_ long line at the > start of a file) at the top of some small percentage of ebuilds in the > tree, then it is worth it. > > rich0 mentioned earlier in this thread that developer eyeballs is far > more valuable than CPU time, isn't having paid developers working on > fixing and improving Gentoo valuable? That can add up to quite a large > amount of developer time that would not otherwise be spent. We have > lost many developers who had life changes that reduced their free time > to work on Gentoo, in the case where a developer can work on Gentoo in > their day job, then that can help avoid losing valuable contributions. > I wouldn't be sure the proponents of these proposals have the 'big picture' in mind .. or they wouldn't even have found discussion or questioning here. There seems to be a remarkable amount of 'busy-work' being done in the echelons of Gentoo, and not a lot of work on fixing bugs, updating packages and developing new features ... That said, I credit those developers who are tirelessly and thanklessly grinding away. You know who you are, and I take my hat off to you, and thank you for your hard work.