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From: "M. J. Everitt" <m.j.everitt@iee.org>
To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] rfc: copyright attribution clarifications
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2018 20:11:21 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8ef14b31-1fba-17e5-b326-3229748866fd@iee.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20181114120232.235442da@scorpius>


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On 14/11/18 20:02, Patrick McLean wrote:
>
> It would also discourage developers under deadlines from contributing
> upstream rather than just adding to a local private repository. There
> are some companies that strongly encourage their employees to upstream
> any work done on an open source project, if any signifigant contribution
> turns in to a git hsitory deep-dive, then they may opt to not
> contribute at all, especially if they are under a deadline.
>
> This discussion keeps me wondering whether Gentoo wants to make it easy
> and painless to accept outside contribution (or coprorate
> contribution), or if they want to make it so painful for corporations
> to contribute that most opt not to do it at all. I personally think
> that the more developer time that can spent on improving Gentoo, the
> better. If increasing the developers fixing bugs and adding features
> requires accepting some extra lines (or one _very_ long line at the
> start of a file) at the top of some small percentage of ebuilds in the
> tree, then it is worth it.
>
> rich0 mentioned earlier in this thread that developer eyeballs is far
> more valuable than CPU time, isn't having paid developers working on
> fixing and improving Gentoo valuable? That can add up to quite a large
> amount of developer time that would not otherwise be spent. We have
> lost many developers who had life changes that reduced their free time
> to work on Gentoo, in the case where a developer can work on Gentoo in
> their day job, then that can help avoid losing valuable contributions.
>
I wouldn't be sure the proponents of these proposals have the 'big picture'
in mind .. or they wouldn't even have found discussion or questioning here.

There seems to be a remarkable amount of 'busy-work' being done in the
echelons of Gentoo, and not a lot of work on fixing bugs, updating packages
and developing new features ...

That said, I credit those developers who are tirelessly and thanklessly
grinding away. You know who you are, and I take my hat off to you, and
thank you for your hard work.


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  reply	other threads:[~2018-11-14 20:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 75+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-11-13 18:32 [gentoo-project] rfc: copyright attribution clarifications William Hubbs
2018-11-13 18:47 ` M. J. Everitt
2018-11-14  2:17 ` Rich Freeman
2018-11-14  2:46   ` William Hubbs
2018-11-14  7:18     ` Sarah White
2018-11-14 15:58       ` Rich Freeman
2018-11-14 19:38         ` Patrick McLean
2018-11-14 23:23           ` Rich Freeman
2018-11-15  0:00             ` Patrick McLean
2018-11-15 15:03               ` Rich Freeman
2018-11-15 15:28                 ` William Hubbs
2018-11-15 15:52                 ` Ian Stakenvicius
2018-11-14  8:24     ` Ulrich Mueller
2018-11-14  8:28       ` Raymond Jennings
2018-11-14 19:47       ` Patrick McLean
2018-11-14 20:09         ` Patrick McLean
2018-11-15 13:38           ` Thomas Deutschmann
2018-11-15 22:25             ` Kristian Fiskerstrand
2018-11-15  6:49         ` Ulrich Mueller
2018-11-15 15:35           ` William Hubbs
2018-11-15 17:50             ` Ulrich Mueller
2018-11-15 18:50               ` William Hubbs
2018-11-15 21:31                 ` M. J. Everitt
2018-11-15 21:56                   ` Andrew Savchenko
2018-11-16  9:16                 ` Ulrich Mueller
2018-11-14 15:50     ` Rich Freeman
2018-11-14 14:45       ` Andrew Savchenko
2018-11-14 15:24         ` Rich Freeman
2018-11-14 15:53           ` Andrew Savchenko
2018-11-23 19:21             ` Sarah White
2018-11-23 19:46               ` Rich Freeman
2018-11-23 20:23                 ` Sarah White
2018-11-23 20:25                   ` Ian Stakenvicius
2018-11-23 20:40                     ` Sarah White
2018-11-24 17:47                       ` William Hubbs
2018-11-24 18:15                         ` Sarah White
2018-11-24 19:41                         ` Alec Warner
2018-11-24 20:12                           ` Rich Freeman
2018-11-24 20:32                             ` Alec Warner
2018-11-24 21:21                               ` Rich Freeman
2018-11-26 12:01                               ` Ulrich Mueller
2018-11-26 13:36                                 ` Alec Warner
2018-11-25 20:36                             ` Matt Turner
2018-11-25 20:52                               ` William Hubbs
2018-11-25 22:58                                 ` Rich Freeman
2018-11-24 23:11                           ` Ulrich Mueller
2018-11-25  1:09                             ` Sarah White
2018-11-25  1:37                               ` Rich Freeman
2018-11-25  2:04                                 ` Sarah White
2018-11-25  2:22                                   ` Rich Freeman
2018-11-25  3:21                                     ` Sarah White
2018-11-25  6:53                                     ` Joonas Niilola
2018-11-25  2:04                         ` Matt Turner
2018-11-26 15:20                           ` William Hubbs
2018-11-26 23:12                             ` William Hubbs
2018-11-27  0:05                               ` Raymond Jennings
2018-11-27  2:38                               ` Matt Turner
2018-11-27  4:51                                 ` William Hubbs
2018-11-27  6:20                                   ` Matt Turner
2018-11-23 20:42                   ` Rich Freeman
2018-11-23 20:51                     ` Sarah White
2018-11-23 21:11                       ` Rich Freeman
2018-11-24 17:49                         ` Sarah White
2018-11-23 20:57                   ` Rich Freeman
2018-11-14 14:36   ` Andrew Savchenko
2018-11-14 15:31     ` Rich Freeman
2018-11-14 16:19       ` Andrew Savchenko
2018-11-14 18:59       ` Ian Stakenvicius
2018-11-14 19:38         ` William Hubbs
2018-11-14 20:02         ` Patrick McLean
2018-11-14 20:11           ` M. J. Everitt [this message]
2018-11-15 13:16         ` Thomas Deutschmann
2018-11-15 15:51       ` Brian Dolbec
2018-11-15 16:25         ` Thomas Deutschmann
2018-11-15 16:47           ` William Hubbs

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