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Fri, 13 Jul 2018 17:59:36 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Call for agenda items - Council meeting 2018-07-29 To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org, Ulrich Mueller References: <23368.25818.481969.336756@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> <20180713065734.63627e6f@professor-x> <23368.58952.48436.482420@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> From: Kristian Fiskerstrand Openpgp: preference=signencrypt Autocrypt: addr=k_f@gentoo.org; prefer-encrypt=mutual; keydata= xsFNBEdj//4BEAC3zjKRryW1mLec38x0w9ByG50h6KJddkZe3UNdGhAa3S5E4NAi/fUoe3gD LUDDmpHZNqtbMgrobwUNjLrp+PDZNdMJFAnbWXvmsMwuax0SWJzy4alem34tvir3a2PpnVr9 ylyAyxPChMM0ANelT/fiYIEysjAbHXjri89qdT+yA16CMljoun7vIOmq7ohKdNd1Dci6qoyj 0NllvR2AiBI+ZJnoF4hkRKO1PNUJROzn/ku88idaNkWyq7rREI+WkhS+K6xg1R/d6mTp+bHP tmwGlN4U1Lgx9qeitYzirkQeA8EGK/EEPPZG85WvXSrTftoPvQswOtW7I+jkTdd30GHXf6JH Rq4oR0mT65mqckycPjXNw6RM0fxyx06/kbVG8x3tzc3roJF+hR+h5QWIWsQOc3ZAhbJPWnfP D/kEN20yvb6EXWha+70QJbrBsnN0M8MLF7x+ZWTKESOVpshUBG67iq/FWCpv3st2VTq4M0Ep b/ORIKlfEgSsGv6waooF0ik41ey3k6PIcuHTq/sCoFoC6EH75wqsbmLkVSyqTKm3MSjlN26d ei425iCXJSyH0L1WmeS0i0rzcF5BCu9V280DmNFHWkr4iHiyrVcNyccocMTeh6/ZG7XSI0wc TONVNnKtofVHkzwHMdDlDx4lFRG+V0ftimR5THlxtG8AzQKY9QARAQABzUJLcmlzdGlhbiBG aXNrZXJzdHJhbmQgPGtyaXN0aWFuLmZpc2tlcnN0cmFuZEBzdW1wdHVvdXNjYXBpdGFsLmNv bT7CwX8EEwEIACkCGwMCHgECF4ACGQEFCwkIBwMEFQoJCAUWAgMBAAUCWiWhXAUJFMX2sgAK CRALf4tg4+364/YeEACSDL8stCAArMoqgXlTAdAKQFedJHyoS2QFVzuLx+k7CCGt0jVrNh3d HRQ92pF2QJScWKw76/LHvh6lMBPJwBEXRIvQNDNUb/zyBx96FipC+Dkd8Fxu3s4W+6YCqUBa lmC5XKB6uF/W5wanvpAn1K8bvUb3sq86RYTD0qZui4LMhvm8A0A1Na4+ZeGyfBFhcH5Oh+nh wkZjL7mbMTe25QCeCs4wQpYowia70EZLcQF4MboF9GzH5PIb0ipG5Jtfk9QfSlT+bnkRL1KR DR6rHo7iAYcMt4oJVU1qo1akSBe0MsMI37OdWDtNvUy2Svd2BCLZl49KZnErleC3R/axrtkL 2w1f0P4FoiuPq7mPeiUBhLaZLlc2fz490cEwjsgsY6GuiCWlbyjBMtp0OKM4VBqt5tdxBo/R X5Y6kNOGWpDHx8D+Dl8ToTDJuH2I0k2wfcUibYzWfwXpPpwZ5iXidwLYXbBQ2qqlyB7MP3Po z3zl+UulJyxIYGjg2sO4FmmRs0tThceaNIiDtP5uPLu77oCkAAsWuFSfa6Iwq9+PIQTqTFhH nJ1v/xrdqKWSYB6tm9Tkb0KkUKxFhc7QVyphvh473UEAQ78bQFWrGHqiejQtiiR3MOubwUyt YkNi+ef068rs27SPfRmBAvRw2EMZWhWyX/P2xM4PPp24reOn4ZuAAM7ATQRVZfyNAQgAvppy gWUI21WpA8IZZC+HXywKOqAIXgEQG8m62kVE048A8gjwk8vcmDKU0vlD6OGZ0capeWzWK5kN Gi8kl4ejvgULXKQCAV8ycEUWXmBSmzabhGruMY96Hy1OILc9tb3Wpg3wggW+PZjc5IuLIa1k 9AiDg6SQExDhC27x1EUKZkxkIG+EThSKHbCFB3t4tbwlI8Na4LUfjOxCILA2KVl7CXD/eUNr apJeSGJOtYEhgNFhuHoSG7Po9k6cy2eRrviq9X9cEW10Y3ocCypKvenuUjrN4bUd0IUsODLy cZ3aL+zEmIdhZsG7dQeFmFeJKK+XDgLIMNgr+EP9+89U/COZ5QARAQABwsFlBBgBCAAPAhsM BQJXwxA2BQkE4salAAoJEAt/i2Dj7frjuDIP/2qDloXeGXfMLASc85cp09JLKrbISlTQZkvH WCQREQWzv9LJ4nUcELIhPTc18ntLhU+xJXLP+9d09cOlIiWWjRXXVCZ8IkcSkUplwCQz0Z2h XpmIOm/kycIDgo+qDCRrQhOCX3IhXGwslT7hWjUf/BlKN9f89Uy7VjBFLACOyP3hBZ1uLswN PcSfks/BzTtGTRZ/TEQxgmw0K2BwyJAwnMFqj8kQwc39P6euHln+33alzmUHDsp5rKUsMl58 x18jrV9KLokU/mDHZXoFeLY61dm9Nr46g+T9YYQagvGYfxIAyR9XcHeK1VxxCieSfC/jLKIT A9pu4Hgevl7DGm5/NHzUtqpwRwcbCqvj95Rgfe6lBwuD5g3olAXpZIQKbx73pWdoH0rwXGrQ Bs1weeFbIyVvoCozWoAoU7wVQSr8rHHZeq70b3Zp9DFdkXiSMu3LhU8Byl/spT3rQyLzCBoW DKDrKkifp+HV4mHoypxwD90CcEjeVObpCmhIEaxIDGKl2QaTm+RTwmVWCqr4YFv7QHRMmFVu STZpPmonZzK6VQJByeJMTDlbL0OpczJ8oVHp6txESKj/17xTs8JU1e/SSsdcYjFuLpzHvb97 0F5NQwMZeVuYRvJlCxL7z4Bpj7oPweATfwP43b+JWAser874u7AlBfonXTxe47pbYMioHPnb wsFlBBgBCAAPAhsMBQJaJaF0BQkGw/ojAAoJEAt/i2Dj7frjgbYQAIYDkXvyczRVnEZloYQb HsqjGwekWXTkTk74yYF5U+GoGGzbdFAmF2FhhWxlwIoPLtWoUXmdBknyqtAHCIlYrqPi0fsY 6SdIU3qdDDESjR9gixoPKOP5pFRC3KsPn0MNUXElbkdHvn0YSjuj0GdBi8YUa1XGRNW/O8PH 4HP900OipflQhuEC3yI5AYiq+Grd80RzJg8F108bn8YmoHapV5zZGfzp5L3pHCNOGsBlpTDr QA3XvlKti3AujaF88Nq3tj5kTsj73I30WOctGH3d9QWdySuK5RekAYvMSHU7M9oHtwV9dfVd RFbbuP4fhf+yF56Syu0k7jGe8e0d1xshwOMIXu8/3z4hYOpPfAvkl7n3QNHeqtT1KwRYqCCw KeK8pKZZlsBJ3D6XPuEZyTc/JIiZr8yALslTYubCCNyYQj7fByxM7neVPPaciNhbkGHImwfJ GPBSEuP/UXciroUcrvwwGfY76+WvezaU+O3SLcrT9i+emo9uA14Syb51RWz8h/x55Yu2UpON hArhearvW+0kJBx/YzG0Us7TLMNAiiQYlGibMmaBgRWW33vMXWT9H3FIN8L1NI/Qvy3/N0zD HawUOUvVMNtAzbWexFtxXQ7zyxLUBHHhFdezpWyXmm71qEaOMdDLnTwLqv3ENHUfZzmCc2Kt ZjTX0qrgBQD08nPn Message-ID: <8c16b9e2-70a5-3ca8-5896-ef86d859bcc0@gentoo.org> Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2018 19:59:04 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.9.0 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <23368.58952.48436.482420@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="zcghlOQhzwDQvQZyt9tw8sxCTVJSsb1IC" X-Archives-Salt: 0efc493f-9111-4088-b14b-d11a0eeb074f X-Archives-Hash: 3613901cb9e9625dc430718d55221ef6 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --zcghlOQhzwDQvQZyt9tw8sxCTVJSsb1IC Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="q1Ep5zKLkWXelDyB88Kfbf56N2agK8zqT"; protected-headers="v1" From: Kristian Fiskerstrand Reply-To: k_f@gentoo.org To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org, Ulrich Mueller Message-ID: <8c16b9e2-70a5-3ca8-5896-ef86d859bcc0@gentoo.org> Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Call for agenda items - Council meeting 2018-07-29 References: <23368.25818.481969.336756@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> <20180713065734.63627e6f@professor-x> <23368.58952.48436.482420@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> In-Reply-To: <23368.58952.48436.482420@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> --q1Ep5zKLkWXelDyB88Kfbf56N2agK8zqT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 07/13/2018 07:50 PM, Ulrich Mueller wrote: >>>>>> On Fri, 13 Jul 2018, Brian Dolbec wrote: >=20 =2E. > For both /var/lib and /var/cache the FHS requires a > subdirectory. Unless we want this to be "portage", we could use > "package-manager" (since virtual/package-manager is a package), > or pretend that "pm" is an alias for it. This would lead us to the > following paths, respectively: >=20 > /var/lib/{package-manager,pm}/gentoo > /var/cache/{package-manager,pm}/distfiles > /var/cache/{package-manager,pm}/packages I don't really like the cache variant here as that data should be able to be reconstructed by the application, which a distfile etc necessarily isn't (e.g for fetch restricted packages it might get lost), but /var/lib/package-manager/{repos,distfiles,packages} works well for me >=20 > Alternatively, we could place either the gentoo tree, or all three of > the above under /var/db (which doesn't follow the FHS, so no subdir > requirement): >=20 > /var/db/repos/gentoo > /var/db/distfiles > /var/db/packages >=20 >> - snapshot name >=20 > Simply gentoo-20180712.tar.xz instead of portage-20180712.tar.xz? > Or is that not specific enough? Can it cause confusion to thinking it is an installer etc? Gentoo is more than just the ebuild repository, so maybe something like gentoo-ebuild{s,-repository} ? --=20 Kristian Fiskerstrand OpenPGP keyblock reachable at hkp://pool.sks-keyservers.net fpr:94CB AFDD 3034 5109 5618 35AA 0B7F 8B60 E3ED FAE3 --q1Ep5zKLkWXelDyB88Kfbf56N2agK8zqT-- --zcghlOQhzwDQvQZyt9tw8sxCTVJSsb1IC Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEzBAEBCgAdFiEEtOrRIMf4mkrqRycHJQt6/tY3nYUFAltI6GkACgkQJQt6/tY3 nYVGQggAx1Bcwkqv7TCohWjcpXDGIzTfcfnuaXI6+mR/aYnvrX1jwLpZFMQqWT0g moAV+heAtplgY02LgrzmqMO3MN68Elij77hKg8kyO+kXfCUhNbLd/pY5gLBEUzRS bnxw/X4gOKAyKQfy1RUp3poo+eBjUFMG0xdVrTZY3NwoVfF6jM/yXGLdMNTnKrce CejpM9zmtADvQWWGCzQsCRgZxOjhnaWD7DOusEXMNyFBrq5z/bKiDTPasV1aEnWf dNPE/3T4HZLVGMOtfGL+YFTfwsbQ1W9FIIBKDvYe0tMl5oLrVaVEgg5GSiVdq0BI /llT8zo/iXsFiQz3I+IyQjwAjCLfPw== =d3iL -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --zcghlOQhzwDQvQZyt9tw8sxCTVJSsb1IC--