From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A46E0158094 for ; Mon, 18 Jul 2022 10:22:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 913E8E0F66; Mon, 18 Jul 2022 10:22:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from tsukuyomi.43-1.org (tsukuyomi.43-1.org [IPv6:2a01:4f8:c2c:1632::1]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 20D42E0F66 for ; Mon, 18 Jul 2022 10:22:17 +0000 (UTC) From: Matthias Maier To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] rfc: github's copilot feature In-Reply-To: (Rich Freeman's message of "Sun, 17 Jul 2022 15:42:52 -0400") References: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.1 (gnu/linux) Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2022 05:22:09 -0500 Message-ID: <87sfmy201a.fsf@gentoo.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Archives-Salt: cf60089c-d188-4be1-9487-9716784ddf4f X-Archives-Hash: 1ce38d775962042d2c788ff0c0988c18 On Sun, Jul 17, 2022, at 14:42 CDT, Rich Freeman wrote: > Well, what exactly does copilot have to do with anything? If the > concern is about copilot "misappropriating" Gentoo's code, then it > seems we agree that moving off of Github won't change anything. I completely agree. I think this is the main point. There is no way of preventing our publicly available source repository to be used for machine learning - at least if we want to make it available at all... It is just a coincidence that Github is using public git repositories hosted at Github and that Github *is informing us about the fact*. For example, Amazon has launched/is launching a competitor [1] that had been trained on an undisclosed number of public open source code. Best, Matthias [1] https://aws.amazon.com/codewhisperer/faqs/