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From: Matthias Maier <tamiko@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Call for agenda items - Council meeting 2018-04-08
Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2018 19:40:04 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87a7ulktqz.fsf@gentoo.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87muyt9njh.fsf@gentoo.org> (Matthias Maier's message of "Tue, 27 Mar 2018 17:11:30 -0500")


On Tue, Mar 27, 2018, at 17:11 CDT, Matthias Maier <tamiko@gentoo.org> wrote:

> [...]


I have the feeling that quite a bit of the current heated discussion
(about whatever) stems from a perceived lack of "democracy" in our
processes.


Therefore, I suggest as meeting agenda that the council discusses the
introduction of a "general resolution" similarly to the one that Debian
has [1]. Debian's version would have to be adapted to Gentoo specifics
but in short a possible version could include

 - overruling council (and comrel?) decisions with a 2:1 majority
 - a vote of no confidence forcing council reelections
 - accepting/withdrawing/... GLEPs with a 2:1 majority 

A vote could be initiated by

 - the council itself
 - a sufficient number of developers seconding the motion

Eligible voters would be Gentoo developers.


I am happy to author a first draft proposal GLEP. If this idea finds
enough supporters on the developer side and on the council, I suggest to
proceed as follows:

 - let council accept the GLEP
 - initiate a "general resolution" (or however we end up naming the
   child) asking to support the GLEP formally.


I am tired of hearing that my decisions and that of my colleagues on the
council would be due to some agenda, sinister behavior or
whatever. A "general resolution" would introduce a nice mechanism that
would deter loud single voices ("the majority of developers is against
this and that") and let just speak the body of developers itself. I
suggest we make the bar of initiating such a vote relatively high (but
by no means impossible) so that we don't get swamped with too much
stuff, though.

Best,
Matthias


[1] https://www.debian.org/devel/constitution#item-4


  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-04-03  0:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-03-27 22:11 [gentoo-project] Call for agenda items - Council meeting 2018-04-08 Matthias Maier
2018-03-28 14:33 ` R0b0t1
2018-03-29 21:55   ` Andreas K. Huettel
2018-03-29  9:52 ` Michał Górny
2018-03-29 11:39   ` Ulrich Mueller
2018-03-31  9:04     ` Ulrich Mueller
2018-03-29 10:13 ` Michał Górny
2018-03-29 11:24   ` Ulrich Mueller
2018-03-29 13:34     ` Michał Górny
2018-03-29 13:55       ` Ulrich Mueller
2018-03-29 22:00       ` Andreas K. Huettel
2018-03-29 11:46 ` Francisco Blas Izquierdo Riera (klondike)
2018-03-29 11:53   ` Rich Freeman
2018-03-29 13:09     ` Ulrich Mueller
2018-03-29 14:28       ` Francisco Blas Izquierdo Riera (klondike)
2018-03-29 22:02     ` Andreas K. Huettel
2018-03-29 20:26 ` Michał Górny
2018-03-29 22:39 ` Andreas K. Huettel
2018-03-30  5:18   ` Robin H. Johnson
2018-03-30 11:46     ` Rich Freeman
2018-04-02 10:00   ` Michał Górny
2018-04-02 15:43     ` Daniel Robbins
2018-04-02 15:46       ` Matthias Maier
2018-04-02 15:51         ` Daniel Robbins
2018-04-02 16:05       ` Ulrich Mueller
2018-04-02 16:07         ` Daniel Robbins
2018-04-03  3:22     ` R0b0t1
2018-04-04  3:57       ` Gregory Woodbury
2018-04-03  0:40 ` Matthias Maier [this message]
2018-04-03  1:01   ` Rich Freeman
2018-04-03  1:14     ` M. J. Everitt
2018-04-03  1:38     ` Matthias Maier
2018-04-03  1:46       ` Rich Freeman
2018-04-06  3:20         ` Robin H. Johnson

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