[gentoo-project] New Developer: Michael Orlitzky (mjo)

[gentoo-project] New Developer: Michael Orlitzky (mjo)

[justin]

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Hello everyone,

it's a pleasure for me to introduce Michael Orlitzky (mjo) as a new
addition to our team.

He already contributed at numerous place as bug reporting, patch
writing, proxy maintaining, sunrise ..... Now he thought it is time to
take the next steps and become more independent.

He is working in IT, but spending his spare time in doing a Ph.D. in
applied mathematics. What a hobby!?! :)

Here are some lines he wrote about himself:

"When I'm not in front of a computer, I like to overeat, overdrink, and
listen to loud music.

I also like to scream at cars which heavily influenced my decision to
become a cyclist."

So please join me in giving him a warm welcome!

Justin


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Re: [gentoo-project] New Developer: Michael Orlitzky (mjo)

[heroxbd]

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justin <jlec@gentoo.org> writes:

> He is working in IT, but spending his spare time in doing a Ph.D. in
> applied mathematics. What a hobby!?! :)
>
> Here are some lines he wrote about himself:
>
> "When I'm not in front of a computer, I like to overeat, overdrink, and
> listen to loud music.
>
> I also like to scream at cars which heavily influenced my decision to
> become a cyclist."

Woo-hoo! Welcome! What a cool guy!

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[gentoo-project] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] New Developer: Michael Orlitzky (mjo)

[Anthony G. Basile]

On 12/04/2013 04:35 PM, justin wrote:
> Hello everyone,
>
> it's a pleasure for me to introduce Michael Orlitzky (mjo) as a new
> addition to our team.
>
> He already contributed at numerous place as bug reporting, patch
> writing, proxy maintaining, sunrise ..... Now he thought it is time to
> take the next steps and become more independent.
>
> He is working in IT, but spending his spare time in doing a Ph.D. in
> applied mathematics. What a hobby!?! :)
>
> Here are some lines he wrote about himself:
>
> "When I'm not in front of a computer, I like to overeat, overdrink, and
> listen to loud music.
>
> I also like to scream at cars which heavily influenced my decision to
> become a cyclist."
>
> So please join me in giving him a warm welcome!
>
> Justin
>

Welcome Michael!  What herds will you be working with?

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Re: [gentoo-project] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] New Developer: Michael Orlitzky (mjo)

[Michael Orlitzky]

On 12/05/2013 09:04 AM, Anthony G. Basile wrote:
> 
> Welcome Michael!  What herds will you be working with?
> 

Thanks. I haven't joined any yet, but there are a few I'm interested in.
And some of those I have the ability to help out.

Interest:

  * emacs
  * hardened (hi)
  * haskell
  * net-mail
  * php
  * sci(-mathematics)
  * sysadmin
  * webapps

Interest and ability:

  * emacs
  * haskell
  * net-mail
  * php
  * sysadmin

The first big thing on my todo list (once the semester is over) is bug
#410451 [1]. After that, I'll probably sign up for more responsibility.

I would really like to chat with the webapps team some time; we use a
number of off-the-shelf web applications, but not in a way that
webapp-config supports. So I have my own ebuilds for e.g.
www-dependencies/piwik, which lists the deps for Piwik[2] but doesn't
install anything.

I don't expect webapp-config to support every crazy configuration that I
can think up, but it would be super convenient if could use the ebuilds
in the tree for dependency management. Right now I'd have to
INSTALL_MASK my entire web root and that would cause issues with the few
web applications we do install "normally" (e.g. Mailman).


[1] https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=410451
[2] http://piwik.org/

Re: [gentoo-project] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] New Developer: Michael Orlitzky (mjo)

[Anthony G. Basile]

On 12/05/2013 10:04 AM, Michael Orlitzky wrote:
> On 12/05/2013 09:04 AM, Anthony G. Basile wrote:
>>
>> Welcome Michael!  What herds will you be working with?
>>
>
> Thanks. I haven't joined any yet, but there are a few I'm interested in.
> And some of those I have the ability to help out.
>
> Interest:
>
>    * emacs
>    * hardened (hi)
>    * haskell
>    * net-mail
>    * php
>    * sci(-mathematics)
>    * sysadmin
>    * webapps
>
> Interest and ability:
>
>    * emacs
>    * haskell
>    * net-mail
>    * php
>    * sysadmin
>
> The first big thing on my todo list (once the semester is over) is bug
> #410451 [1]. After that, I'll probably sign up for more responsibility.
>
> I would really like to chat with the webapps team some time; we use a
> number of off-the-shelf web applications, but not in a way that
> webapp-config supports. So I have my own ebuilds for e.g.
> www-dependencies/piwik, which lists the deps for Piwik[2] but doesn't
> install anything.

My student (gentoo dev twitch153) and I are maintaining webapp-config. 
We're both upstream and the ebuild maintainer.

>
> I don't expect webapp-config to support every crazy configuration that I
> can think up, but it would be super convenient if could use the ebuilds
> in the tree for dependency management. Right now I'd have to
> INSTALL_MASK my entire web root and that would cause issues with the few
> web applications we do install "normally" (e.g. Mailman).
>
>
> [1] https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=410451
> [2] http://piwik.org/
>


-- 
Anthony G. Basile, Ph. D.
Chair of Information Technology
D'Youville College
Buffalo, NY 14201
(716) 829-8197

Re: [gentoo-project] New Developer: Michael Orlitzky (mjo)

[Sven Vermeulen]

On Wed, Dec 04, 2013 at 10:35:58PM +0100, justin wrote:
> it's a pleasure for me to introduce Michael Orlitzky (mjo) as a new
> addition to our team.
[...]
> I also like to scream at cars which heavily influenced my decision to
> become a cyclist."

Which cars influenced your decision to become a cyclist?

Oh wait, misread that.

Welcome on board mjo!

Wkr,
	SwifT

Re: [gentoo-project] New Developer: Michael Orlitzky (mjo)

[Michael Orlitzky]

On 12/05/2013 12:53 PM, Sven Vermeulen wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 04, 2013 at 10:35:58PM +0100, justin wrote:
>> it's a pleasure for me to introduce Michael Orlitzky (mjo) as a new
>> addition to our team.
> [...]
>> I also like to scream at cars which heavily influenced my decision to
>> become a cyclist."
> 
> Which cars influenced your decision to become a cyclist?

The ones in front of me, of course. The sentence works either way =)

Re: [gentoo-project] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] New Developer: Michael Orlitzky (mjo)

[Michael Orlitzky]

On 12/05/2013 11:32 AM, Anthony G. Basile wrote:
> 
> My student (gentoo dev twitch153) and I are maintaining webapp-config.
> We're both upstream and the ebuild maintainer.
> 

Here's a hopefully-short version of our situation. Among other things,
we do web hosting for small businesses. These kinds of places have
neither the expertise nor interest to manage a website on a shared
hosting service, so they pay us a little bit more to do it all for them.

So we're running Wordpress, Drupal, Joomla, etc. as well as a number of
custom sites, and we keep them all up-to-date. Not just the CMSes, but
the plugins and whatever else, too.

For security, I want the sites as isolated as possible. An exploit on
one customer's site shouldn't be able to affect another. For that, we
use mpm-itk and isolate each site under its own
/var/www/${domain}/${host} directory. The temporary directories for PHP
are overridden. Other developers besides me need full write access to
these directories, but the apps themselves only need read/traverse with
write access to an "upload" folder. We use POSIX ACLs to achieve this,
and I've written a utility and patches to make that not suck so
much[1][2][3]. (Someday I dream of getting the apply-default-acl
algorithm upstreamed into libacl so that coreutils et al. could use it.)

Most sites are kind of standard, but there are differences between them.
We do all of the QA after an upgrade, so if I upgrade, say, Wordpress
for www.example.com, I have to run through a bunch of checks to make
sure it still works. That can take maybe an hour. Since the upgrades do
break things occasionally, we have to do them one-at-a-time; otherwise,
20 sites would be broken while we QA the first one. The same goes for
the plugins/modules.

So basically, every website needs its own copy of the web app and has
its own set of permissions. I don't doubt that webapp-config could be
made to do this, but I'm sceptical that the result would be less complex
than "everybody gets their own copy" and a makefile to set the
permissions. Space isn't an issue, so de-duping the apps isn't a huge
gain for us. I would love to be proven wrong though!

On the other hand, dependency management is critical, and greatly
simplifies the job of me not accidentally breaking something. I need to
be sure that if a php USE flag gets unset by default, and
www.example.com relies on it, that I don't unwittingly update and break
the site. Simply copying the webapp ebuilds and deleting SRC_URI is a
huge gain for little investment.



[1]
https://michael.orlitzky.com/articles/problems_with_posix_acls_and_common_utilities.php

[2]
https://michael.orlitzky.com/articles/fixing_posix_acls_in_common_utilities.php

[3] https://michael.orlitzky.com/code/apply-default-acl.php

Re: [gentoo-project] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] New Developer: Michael Orlitzky (mjo)

[Eray Aslan]

On 05/12/13 17:04, Michael Orlitzky wrote:
> Interest and ability:
>   * net-mail

Nice.  Do join up.  Welcome onboard.

-- 
Eray Aslan <eras@gentoo.org>