From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AAB6A1382C5 for ; Sun, 6 May 2018 07:51:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 98425E081A; Sun, 6 May 2018 07:51:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (woodpecker.gentoo.org [IPv6:2001:470:ea4a:1:5054:ff:fec7:86e4]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1DD3AE0819; Sun, 6 May 2018 07:51:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.40] (unknown [213.24.127.181]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: zlogene) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C87F2335C7C; Sun, 6 May 2018 07:51:07 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [gentoo-project] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Call for agenda items - Council meeting 2018-05-13 To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org, gentoo-dev-announce@lists.gentoo.org References: <20180502201115.22894110@sf> From: Mikle Kolyada Openpgp: preference=signencrypt Autocrypt: addr=zlogene@gentoo.org; prefer-encrypt=mutual; keydata= xo0EUa985wEEANtm+0QkkFUqgmnsUKoJ1bzAaIamMLL6E+qykF/O3hEIxO6t6W+W2pH+63tG USNBwOfBRWd+5+NoLddgwkrY7UG2a0cZ3yn7UQCgCEcEaHLreLrelTy1l55Mc4kPNiLnZn2Y +VQJgTuJYMQMEliM+TFlGFVzuVEfbjiwKetDdzAHABEBAAHNIk1pa2xlIEtvbHlhZGEgPHps b2dlbmVAZ2VudG9vLm9yZz7CuQQTAQIAIwUCUa985wIbAwcLCQgHAwIBBhUIAgkKCwQWAgMB Ah4BAheAAAoJEBvcDlrELrXWKckD/0ELhLCBCozb5hFgUGt9OlaaYf+5CVCJ03groVQ01KGf v9kuQvU/piHah1xf+sFJoEVpNLyXop7NzbnRICjkvjX+wyGlznCnxB5+PRxZzxEP4llktvxM bamfiNjk+7c/tRfLgpU83fFGjX5VXDla7L6JkK7bJHBiMQkIBk5bnl8Bzo0EUa985wEEAMoX XmdUNLjsWcKAJfavkNRQBExFW3y0iJP0rWLW/4ElehR53OeUHDG3h5Vs5rcK3OPe1cBuUljN UQ/dCjsJUfyfOXM7YaI7YKhgNXGt1gc4aTX389Xm4H6NpPXeTfyCvq3cZlp6z9peWxt6DI7N iJRbt8yWI9ZOcM6FUdXCsEYJABEBAAHCnwQYAQIACQUCUa985wIbDAAKCRAb3A5axC611iVx BACoBG22XBIF4MaahQ4JF2Of2t7OKAj6ieAYj+nZ5DwpQO3F/daz+Q4zmHFjeapVC3E3CThO DgDneq+/B42stXodHQqLdOrrCuRvM8sKjcsl+uz2GdNdsM0AyXvHnksKhIV+fdeZkObVAyQE I+x+fVCJiMDmVTfueJgahTDUP3TVgA== Message-ID: <84b69505-f25d-9253-7018-51712cc1106e@gentoo.org> Date: Sun, 6 May 2018 10:51:06 +0300 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.7.0 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20180502201115.22894110@sf> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------BF2E5B12301065E574248B83" Content-Language: en-US X-Archives-Salt: 1f51b40d-22fb-4e11-8d36-05f79cd87991 X-Archives-Hash: e55ca6dd7eb1f951e8845fdb13e8839d This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------BF2E5B12301065E574248B83 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 02.05.2018 22:11, Sergei Trofimovich wrote: > Hello all! > > 13 May will be The Day. Council will meet again and > Decide on things in Gentoo. > > Please provide agenda items you would like council@ to > look at as a reply to this email. > > To get the idea what usually happens at those meetings > you can have a glance at past meeting notes summary at: > https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Council/Meeting_logs > > Thank you! > As requested by mgorny at [1] I politely ask council to reconsider its state again, despite some efforts have been recently done to keep it stable, it seems to fell behind again, from my point of view it is not worth to support it anymore in any way. Debian dropped its support oficially (back to 2011). Only Gentoo and NetBSD are supporting this legacy thing. And no chance of getting really new hardware for this. I think it would be greate idea to say goodbye, at least move it to dev (exp?) and start package dekeywording. [1] - https://bugs.gentoo.org/629554 --------------BF2E5B12301065E574248B83 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit



On 02.05.2018 22:11, Sergei Trofimovich wrote:
Hello all!

13 May will be The Day. Council will meet again and
Decide on things in Gentoo.

Please provide agenda items you would like council@ to
look at as a reply to this email.

To get the idea what usually happens at those meetings
you can have a glance at past meeting notes summary at:
    https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Council/Meeting_logs

Thank you!
As requested by mgorny at [1]

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I politely ask council to reconsider its state again, despite some efforts have been recently done to keep it stable, it seems to fell behind again, from my point of view it is not worth to support it anymore in any way. Debian dropped its support oficially (back to 2011). Only Gentoo and NetBSD are supporting this legacy thing. And no chance of getting really new hardware for this.

I think it would be greate idea to say goodbye, at least move it to dev (exp?) and start package dekeywording.

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[1] - https://bugs.gentoo.org/629554
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