From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B78BE139085 for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2017 20:57:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 840E7234041; Mon, 16 Jan 2017 20:57:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-yw0-x22a.google.com (mail-yw0-x22a.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4002:c05::22a]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 541A6234035 for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2017 20:57:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-yw0-x22a.google.com with SMTP id v200so1207049ywc.3 for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2017 12:57:12 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=subject:to:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version :in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=AbH00IhdICCyFSeVEd5s/JY92/5TyZQ7WKfocNEbTSY=; b=VTdwMgjvRVu5qPzYRoxi5tjNqTlw33gKZRh0YEGyxmxJf5POv2p5rhTQMJKmCID8RQ M6Mvg+XdCyoKsgcZoOtSyLtdj6Q/jS0l3Vx2Su84NdXdRjV1dzrjGBjSRHrJhZyDpgnf ZbYPw0Tff3yIE4HOnD81J4PmbIJJCiieDglWwt2nwWJiRqWpk+m8R7BDN2fGMDnrUcml nyHWz5QbLmPFzrVSYCB3yqKS1nbvW7DcUvYud0O+5De/Yz0/GbUTQR79yFsRRj/nUrO4 CmAUCfVCi2LUa2O/gmvNNDRUOV5fvzE0dFK/Fhxnx21jAebciQn5HYIF6o/I9kAVzVAN /z9g== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:references:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=AbH00IhdICCyFSeVEd5s/JY92/5TyZQ7WKfocNEbTSY=; b=ljbkEw9jISnn56iDB37gD6nwgJMh4fSFlgbjkr9GzbH8J+rSB622ueY73HUTg/BjK/ 5Bwt7LQIE2neAP2/A4iP7WL6Er/pkJB51RjC4O1cqDJQTXhwN/rKG0biVKLqA/8+1GSV i5IehCtTLfV/Oqb2CIJPZh7h1caY2ERVFrvQ4dHcs+KSYKYQy/8uBO+sWDqKpCJn1EGq P68pjFKlWzPZyKo5daKWEQDQfBeFNhoi/k6shqNe6TytrY2ArDyOG7v3ndDJg2SMtfXA 86r0sikww2oKjbYGv/6zZoLgjkt2mRHfl13ld4TyIqBHIsL1c5UU/h91HP0YvZvBSobS AaoA== X-Gm-Message-State: AIkVDXIukWrkECsDCtLc5kYOFus12lDO73Ct8n2pmh1HhKn6IsBk68Iuv6WhDjdIB+6Gsw== X-Received: by 10.13.245.198 with SMTP id e189mr8865661ywf.135.1484600231517; Mon, 16 Jan 2017 12:57:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.2.5] (adsl-65-0-121-9.jan.bellsouth.net. [65.0.121.9]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id h3sm7410869ywc.54.2017.01.16.12.57.10 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 16 Jan 2017 12:57:11 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Formally have Council oversee the Foundation 2.0 To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org References: <1604622.bZRWYHrp25@pinacolada> From: Dale Message-ID: <816498cb-dded-e030-edc7-fa5bf67c9bf4@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2017 14:57:10 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:49.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/49.0 SeaMonkey/2.46 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 4d226bbe-98be-4f23-bdfd-814bf0412295 X-Archives-Hash: eb8c55ec24d2a415dcb5fcdad57fd192 Rich Freeman wrote: > On Mon, Jan 16, 2017 at 3:31 PM, Dale wrote: >> Given that Gentoo has to my knowledge not been able to do that over the >> last decade or more, I doubt they can now either. > Well, if they can't it becomes a moot point. At that point we just > change our name and start fresh. > > IMO though it is a lot more straightforward to do a one-time cleanup > of affairs than keep it going. If I were SPI, I sure wouldn't want to touch it then. I wouldn't want something under my name or a corporation I have my name on to be involved with that sort of thing. As I posted elsewhere, things change but yet they remain the same. >> I've read that some >> paperwork can't even be found which may be some of the reason Gentoo is >> in the mess it is or has been in. > Don't believe everything you read. It may or may not be true. :) > If I recall correctly, I read it in a post by the person that was trying to find the info. It was on a Gentoo mailing list. Or are you saying that people who would know these things would lie on purpose in public? Surely not. Dale :-) :-)