From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([69.77.167.62] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from <gentoo-project+bounces-342-garchives=archives.gentoo.org@lists.gentoo.org>) id 1Jx95n-0000go-VI for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Fri, 16 May 2008 23:12:04 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B7FBBE0349; Fri, 16 May 2008 23:12:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A292E0349 for <gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org>; Fri, 16 May 2008 23:12:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0683467B04 for <gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org>; Fri, 16 May 2008 23:12:02 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at gentoo.org X-Spam-Score: -1.711 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.711 required=5.5 tests=[AWL=0.888, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from smtp.gentoo.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.gentoo.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id SbQbt2rrs3mj for <gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org>; Fri, 16 May 2008 23:11:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com (wa-out-1112.google.com [209.85.146.182]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51F7467B63 for <gentoo-project@gentoo.org>; Fri, 16 May 2008 23:11:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id v33so427743wah.24 for <gentoo-project@gentoo.org>; Fri, 16 May 2008 16:11:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; bh=8vFYtqcv80JsSdfrEfSk/kvly46HY9en+0OfWRSwmEY=; b=AlDjM9kQjMo+m6PkZn1WnGZajU1LU9f0U+dguvzsm3nmmVTD0FuD4yWru2JjdNEJ+lmvea4fwqVk5IlusSz7Uz/3SneckOaC/PXLQ5lZ6T+WHKIHnX2rabYWCoN4KGQPKOtvg7KJxEPkkQ8UUAZaBfQB0nc+V8p2sMAEbZWIGXw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=VaaQ4ljuGWDTwZ/71oUbBEayQKpsTECR7jYoDbSoYzPFhBgbR/DbTNIDNqwjpui4eFtdvMzLphzCP9LiH+xjokUSgJfZ3E3gVt9Ugi5u0lDy/HJxJjn8lu8SD6tiWErl+VAZwpWhTh0y/bWzPKl3CnmeJbw1P/1l1bApR8kgZeU= Received: by 10.114.93.17 with SMTP id q17mr4290694wab.70.1210979514647; Fri, 16 May 2008 16:11:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.180.13 with HTTP; Fri, 16 May 2008 16:11:54 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <7c612fc60805161611w48d9e134m7437c4a29f33d79a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 17 May 2008 01:11:54 +0200 From: "Denis Dupeyron" <calchan@gentoo.org> Sender: denis.dupeyron@gmail.com To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Re: [gentoo-dev] Special meeting [WAS: Council meeting summary for 8 May 2008] In-Reply-To: <20080516213454.538ce4e8@anaconda.krait.us> Precedence: bulk List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org> List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-project+help@lists.gentoo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-project+unsubscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-project+subscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list <gentoo-project.gentoo.org> X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20080508233328.GA8896@comet> <20080515204913.GA22285@comet> <20080515220543.5c5a2c03@snowcone> <482CB0B2.6090702@gentoo.org> <20080516164612.GA14234@comet> <482DF281.6010208@gentoo.org> <20080516213454.538ce4e8@anaconda.krait.us> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 4bbfe5962b707def X-Archives-Salt: b0c75a33-c38d-43d1-b5a8-683c9fda2c54 X-Archives-Hash: 5bb3eb5b7733d7ffd2202d334dc9c599 On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 11:34 PM, Ferris McCormick <fmccor@gentoo.org> wrote: > Changing policy is a fairly lengthy procedure Making such a minor change to a GLEP (i.e. deleting a line) and having the council vote on it can technically be done in a day. Practically, it can easily be done in a week or even less if you include the mandatory discussion. By the way, the discussion is mandatory but there is no requirement on its duration, and it isn't mandatory for anybody to agree on anything prior to submitting the GLEP and the council voting on it. I'm not saying we should change GLEP 39. I just wanted to point out that in case we need it it can be done easily and quick enough, and without bending any rule. On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 12:44 AM, Ciaran McCreesh <ciaran.mccreesh@googlemail.com> wrote: > They don't have that authority. GLEP 39 wasn't approved as a GLEP. It > was approved by global vote, and retroactively written up as a GLEP > to make it easy to reference and find. Does the council have any authority at all ? Will Ciaran eventually reveal the eleventh commandment ? Are we locked into GLEP 39 forever ? And who is this Ciaran anyway ? Dear readers, you'll find the answers to these questions and many more in the next episode. Denis. -- gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org mailing list