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charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 11/23/18 3:25 PM, Ian Stakenvicius wrote: > On 2018-11-23 3:23 p.m., Sarah White wrote: >=20 >> >> Either way: multiline copyright notices are legally valid, >> or is that meant to be disputed? I'm not clear on the >> intent for this comment: >> >> ["...don't have to be listed in a notice"] >> >=20 > legal validity !=3D legal requirement >=20 >=20 Sure. You're not wrong. You've left out the other section which starts: ["The interest in removing or discouraging..."] What's the purpose of removing or discouraging something which doesn't harm gentoo, but rather, helps get more support from: ["contributors who are in a situation where a contract may require a copyright notice for anything done on-the-clock"] =2E.. and/or other harmless reasons. The intent / reasoning for removal or prohibition of a multiline copyright notice has tenuous footing, and worries me that nobody in this thread has made a stronger argument than: ["we're not required by any law to allow a different copyright notice, so we'll require it to be a gentoo authors copyright notice."] -- kuza --r7YVYHLa7An2w2HA6tuiovgw5pocObttc-- --M2tWqGth9bIRu4yp1WoAaor5x5RGjp6ki Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCAAdFiEEMH8xDp5tbsOKHqmmvk1O/QUpfGcFAlv4ZaEACgkQvk1O/QUp fGezrw/5AXqY/lYAOLZbPwEj/uPmgjdAXiMl2eegmmKpZYjf2vR54L9HMF1IQutB mBcrVvmY6legp5eKJXXK8SQLTcahyQEB+3U2pBl80AXzJYdrq/Z4A/lpXRrnD0vf SpPebzVd0NCTBXtqHkCAASeOh+VjJg9Q2q4yOZVU7Kn04uBFERymLXkXLqwyQ/aG DPRd2L0zjv/koRBenCVUjizCq7rjxCdMrJJ43WXemqqcpmNkGzFJVrIb9ciDcHGT IeOcZsF5sF1G6dMpDhquPA94DOXW3RWvmCVD+TJZl6gpNCc+COSnE654MPjUMmnO ZoVtIJMdGKmQ4PeYd5O4wt0FGzxAunxrzn3DLeTnbCPKWmqB4OY2/p/ZQ7E7UYUo Q+4S/Q+kb5rYK5yvRshJ62nmcbBNLUqS41P2U2YZA2THV7FELUYjVU3xU5Meonxf /nU9pQMddafj9iB54X4q7thmaN4sk09tAJ7N18QPPylOzFE4vij7obFcyJrlRNNV 6e4yLm9Yq+INUH97pvl6bf1aQmR+A6GkxckiSZt6nd8DhNKj1Nr8y/GDml2WcJ9D dW8SDn4Zi8khzJa1W1zcartvgFvk4cj9SHdTgH6WzOCM/MJi1hQIb6y8gZmBoZAL yykubeEWz5wePjElopL9yFyS5kWGVB0OgxzpSrLDNWjHdc7HfzU= =vtsc -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --M2tWqGth9bIRu4yp1WoAaor5x5RGjp6ki--