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Thu, 28 Jun 2018 08:24:19 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Gentoo Council nominee 2018/19 questions To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org References: <1529997071.2250.6.camel@gentoo.org> <1530087907.849.13.camel@gentoo.org> From: Kristian Fiskerstrand Openpgp: preference=signencrypt Autocrypt: addr=k_f@gentoo.org; prefer-encrypt=mutual; keydata= xsFNBEdj//4BEAC3zjKRryW1mLec38x0w9ByG50h6KJddkZe3UNdGhAa3S5E4NAi/fUoe3gD LUDDmpHZNqtbMgrobwUNjLrp+PDZNdMJFAnbWXvmsMwuax0SWJzy4alem34tvir3a2PpnVr9 ylyAyxPChMM0ANelT/fiYIEysjAbHXjri89qdT+yA16CMljoun7vIOmq7ohKdNd1Dci6qoyj 0NllvR2AiBI+ZJnoF4hkRKO1PNUJROzn/ku88idaNkWyq7rREI+WkhS+K6xg1R/d6mTp+bHP tmwGlN4U1Lgx9qeitYzirkQeA8EGK/EEPPZG85WvXSrTftoPvQswOtW7I+jkTdd30GHXf6JH Rq4oR0mT65mqckycPjXNw6RM0fxyx06/kbVG8x3tzc3roJF+hR+h5QWIWsQOc3ZAhbJPWnfP D/kEN20yvb6EXWha+70QJbrBsnN0M8MLF7x+ZWTKESOVpshUBG67iq/FWCpv3st2VTq4M0Ep b/ORIKlfEgSsGv6waooF0ik41ey3k6PIcuHTq/sCoFoC6EH75wqsbmLkVSyqTKm3MSjlN26d ei425iCXJSyH0L1WmeS0i0rzcF5BCu9V280DmNFHWkr4iHiyrVcNyccocMTeh6/ZG7XSI0wc TONVNnKtofVHkzwHMdDlDx4lFRG+V0ftimR5THlxtG8AzQKY9QARAQABzUJLcmlzdGlhbiBG aXNrZXJzdHJhbmQgPGtyaXN0aWFuLmZpc2tlcnN0cmFuZEBzdW1wdHVvdXNjYXBpdGFsLmNv bT7CwX8EEwEIACkCGwMCHgECF4ACGQEFCwkIBwMEFQoJCAUWAgMBAAUCWiWhXAUJFMX2sgAK CRALf4tg4+364/YeEACSDL8stCAArMoqgXlTAdAKQFedJHyoS2QFVzuLx+k7CCGt0jVrNh3d HRQ92pF2QJScWKw76/LHvh6lMBPJwBEXRIvQNDNUb/zyBx96FipC+Dkd8Fxu3s4W+6YCqUBa lmC5XKB6uF/W5wanvpAn1K8bvUb3sq86RYTD0qZui4LMhvm8A0A1Na4+ZeGyfBFhcH5Oh+nh wkZjL7mbMTe25QCeCs4wQpYowia70EZLcQF4MboF9GzH5PIb0ipG5Jtfk9QfSlT+bnkRL1KR DR6rHo7iAYcMt4oJVU1qo1akSBe0MsMI37OdWDtNvUy2Svd2BCLZl49KZnErleC3R/axrtkL 2w1f0P4FoiuPq7mPeiUBhLaZLlc2fz490cEwjsgsY6GuiCWlbyjBMtp0OKM4VBqt5tdxBo/R X5Y6kNOGWpDHx8D+Dl8ToTDJuH2I0k2wfcUibYzWfwXpPpwZ5iXidwLYXbBQ2qqlyB7MP3Po z3zl+UulJyxIYGjg2sO4FmmRs0tThceaNIiDtP5uPLu77oCkAAsWuFSfa6Iwq9+PIQTqTFhH nJ1v/xrdqKWSYB6tm9Tkb0KkUKxFhc7QVyphvh473UEAQ78bQFWrGHqiejQtiiR3MOubwUyt YkNi+ef068rs27SPfRmBAvRw2EMZWhWyX/P2xM4PPp24reOn4ZuAAM7ATQRVZfyNAQgAvppy gWUI21WpA8IZZC+HXywKOqAIXgEQG8m62kVE048A8gjwk8vcmDKU0vlD6OGZ0capeWzWK5kN Gi8kl4ejvgULXKQCAV8ycEUWXmBSmzabhGruMY96Hy1OILc9tb3Wpg3wggW+PZjc5IuLIa1k 9AiDg6SQExDhC27x1EUKZkxkIG+EThSKHbCFB3t4tbwlI8Na4LUfjOxCILA2KVl7CXD/eUNr apJeSGJOtYEhgNFhuHoSG7Po9k6cy2eRrviq9X9cEW10Y3ocCypKvenuUjrN4bUd0IUsODLy cZ3aL+zEmIdhZsG7dQeFmFeJKK+XDgLIMNgr+EP9+89U/COZ5QARAQABwsFlBBgBCAAPAhsM BQJXwxA2BQkE4salAAoJEAt/i2Dj7frjuDIP/2qDloXeGXfMLASc85cp09JLKrbISlTQZkvH WCQREQWzv9LJ4nUcELIhPTc18ntLhU+xJXLP+9d09cOlIiWWjRXXVCZ8IkcSkUplwCQz0Z2h XpmIOm/kycIDgo+qDCRrQhOCX3IhXGwslT7hWjUf/BlKN9f89Uy7VjBFLACOyP3hBZ1uLswN PcSfks/BzTtGTRZ/TEQxgmw0K2BwyJAwnMFqj8kQwc39P6euHln+33alzmUHDsp5rKUsMl58 x18jrV9KLokU/mDHZXoFeLY61dm9Nr46g+T9YYQagvGYfxIAyR9XcHeK1VxxCieSfC/jLKIT A9pu4Hgevl7DGm5/NHzUtqpwRwcbCqvj95Rgfe6lBwuD5g3olAXpZIQKbx73pWdoH0rwXGrQ Bs1weeFbIyVvoCozWoAoU7wVQSr8rHHZeq70b3Zp9DFdkXiSMu3LhU8Byl/spT3rQyLzCBoW DKDrKkifp+HV4mHoypxwD90CcEjeVObpCmhIEaxIDGKl2QaTm+RTwmVWCqr4YFv7QHRMmFVu STZpPmonZzK6VQJByeJMTDlbL0OpczJ8oVHp6txESKj/17xTs8JU1e/SSsdcYjFuLpzHvb97 0F5NQwMZeVuYRvJlCxL7z4Bpj7oPweATfwP43b+JWAser874u7AlBfonXTxe47pbYMioHPnb wsFlBBgBCAAPAhsMBQJaJaF0BQkGw/ojAAoJEAt/i2Dj7frjgbYQAIYDkXvyczRVnEZloYQb HsqjGwekWXTkTk74yYF5U+GoGGzbdFAmF2FhhWxlwIoPLtWoUXmdBknyqtAHCIlYrqPi0fsY 6SdIU3qdDDESjR9gixoPKOP5pFRC3KsPn0MNUXElbkdHvn0YSjuj0GdBi8YUa1XGRNW/O8PH 4HP900OipflQhuEC3yI5AYiq+Grd80RzJg8F108bn8YmoHapV5zZGfzp5L3pHCNOGsBlpTDr QA3XvlKti3AujaF88Nq3tj5kTsj73I30WOctGH3d9QWdySuK5RekAYvMSHU7M9oHtwV9dfVd RFbbuP4fhf+yF56Syu0k7jGe8e0d1xshwOMIXu8/3z4hYOpPfAvkl7n3QNHeqtT1KwRYqCCw KeK8pKZZlsBJ3D6XPuEZyTc/JIiZr8yALslTYubCCNyYQj7fByxM7neVPPaciNhbkGHImwfJ GPBSEuP/UXciroUcrvwwGfY76+WvezaU+O3SLcrT9i+emo9uA14Syb51RWz8h/x55Yu2UpON hArhearvW+0kJBx/YzG0Us7TLMNAiiQYlGibMmaBgRWW33vMXWT9H3FIN8L1NI/Qvy3/N0zD HawUOUvVMNtAzbWexFtxXQ7zyxLUBHHhFdezpWyXmm71qEaOMdDLnTwLqv3ENHUfZzmCc2Kt ZjTX0qrgBQD08nPn Message-ID: <70563894-b5b7-6c24-16fb-4f04a7946e54@gentoo.org> Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2018 10:23:48 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.8.0 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <1530087907.849.13.camel@gentoo.org> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="SHPUhbI22H1ixddQxijvQjrAWnP38s4m8" X-Archives-Salt: 8b299001-17db-44d0-9b14-58072ca9fbf4 X-Archives-Hash: 964ca4fb06e0d5cf1d9bc39f0f608eaf This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --SHPUhbI22H1ixddQxijvQjrAWnP38s4m8 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="icuSxO7bxTdNk3kEXz9Nl0LT0nrRA8tnn"; protected-headers="v1" From: Kristian Fiskerstrand Reply-To: k_f@gentoo.org To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Message-ID: <70563894-b5b7-6c24-16fb-4f04a7946e54@gentoo.org> Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Gentoo Council nominee 2018/19 questions References: <1529997071.2250.6.camel@gentoo.org> <1530087907.849.13.camel@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <1530087907.849.13.camel@gentoo.org> --icuSxO7bxTdNk3kEXz9Nl0LT0nrRA8tnn Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 06/27/2018 10:25 AM, Micha=C5=82 G=C3=B3rny wrote: > (CC-ing the remaining people to remind them to be subscribed to -projec= t > and read archives) >=20 > W dniu wto, 26.06.2018 o godzinie 09=E2=88=B611=E2=80=89+0200, u=C5=BCy= tkownik Micha=C5=82 G=C3=B3rny > napisa=C5=82: >> To improve readability of the thread, I'll ask my question in reply to= >> myself ;-). >=20 > Three more questions from me: >=20 >=20 > 1. Do you believe that Council members should respect the requests of > the developer community even if they disagree with them? Or should > Council members decide based on their own judgment of arguments > presented? Respect and agree are two different things. As with any board position, once elected the duty of the individual is to what is perceived as the best of the organization, despite any short term noise. One issue is of course that some of the people complaining the most are actually in a minority. With terms as short as 1 year and 7 voting members there shouldn't really be much conflict here in any case. >=20 > Example: there's a heated debate, and the majority of respondents > request that X is implemented. However, after reading all the argument= s > you don't think that X is a good idea but you haven't managed to > convince others. Would you vote for X (as your electorate demands) > or against it (as you believe is better for the distro)? >=20 against >=20 > 2. Do you believe that the Council should proactively research the stat= e > of affairs and make decisions whenever they believe the direction > of the distribution needs to be adjusted? Or should it be passive > and avoid involvement unless developers explicitly request Council's > intervention? >=20 I actually think that individual council members to a great extent are doing this already, by being involved in the various projects. Ironically this has resulted in complaints by some about "conflicts of interest", that is demonstrating a certain lack of understanding of concepts. >=20 > 3. Do you believe the developer community should hold the power > to veto or dissolve the Council at any point? Provided there's a globa= l > developer vote agreeing on that. > They already have that every year during elections, so I'm not sure if adding additional layers of complexity is really worthwhile. But lets see the proposal similar to the debian general resolution and discuss it on its merits. --=20 Kristian Fiskerstrand OpenPGP keyblock reachable at hkp://pool.sks-keyservers.net fpr:94CB AFDD 3034 5109 5618 35AA 0B7F 8B60 E3ED FAE3 --icuSxO7bxTdNk3kEXz9Nl0LT0nrRA8tnn-- --SHPUhbI22H1ixddQxijvQjrAWnP38s4m8 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEzBAEBCgAdFiEEtOrRIMf4mkrqRycHJQt6/tY3nYUFAls0mxUACgkQJQt6/tY3 nYX1ngf9GhkzdRdmriI0pCAQPSADp0iFUNgCiQtr/bu9jIseApwO8SjBq8w9q9dt p+aHhwjKQHM4M1R7K/1nkvaZaC1IgTVPBlEDJs/lN1aHLP6RLs7RNlwMr4U9QQJ8 3tYGGwbcaX9vY3Zzr4IhkxPpxY63A3+4z9VDUJq+wItP56EMJL0h2hvndGv+49sD zbCN9DTYVGm0h4CxUvGN8mtXoeAts0PSORwvpUNuHXZwmKsou6Y6G2eJK+Minof+ IVRaSLqnuh5RdiCPbASEijEmeL0Uvwog5nBcLjove37jsIqxu8Sq0dd5cSZ2qm5z VjD8Y5V6w6q7X+ceLfH24Vt0w9KpLA== =zkWn -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --SHPUhbI22H1ixddQxijvQjrAWnP38s4m8--