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J. Everitt" To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Message-ID: <6e044a84-2c16-ee8b-9682-44719107efb1@iee.org> Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] rfc: copyright attribution clarifications References: <20181113183242.GA26771@whubbs1.gaikai.biz> <20181114024643.GA15537@linux1.home> <20181114114739.23491a58@scorpius> <20181115153537.GB18539@linux1.home> <20181115185003.GA26382@whubbs1.gaikai.biz> In-Reply-To: <20181115185003.GA26382@whubbs1.gaikai.biz> --7OFXQ25XSQhlXlOLSSWFB20YIyeDv9WK2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Language: en-GB On 15/11/18 18:50, William Hubbs wrote: > On Thu, Nov 15, 2018 at 06:50:52PM +0100, Ulrich Mueller wrote: >> | * Notice identifies the copyright owner at the time the work was fir= st >> | published for parties seeking permission to use the work. >> | * Notice identifies the year of first publication, which may be used= >> | to determine the term of copyright protection in the case of an >> | anonymous work, a pseudonymous work, or a work made for hire. >> | * Notice may prevent the work from becoming an orphan work by >> | identifying the copyright owner and specifying the term of the >> | copyright. >> >> For "indentifying the copyright owner" nothing short of a complete lis= t >> will suffice. Especially, a notice like the following (which mentions >> only "Gentoo Authors" and "Sony Interactive Entertainment Inc.") does >> not help with that at all (i.e., it is no better than the simplified >> notice): >> https://gitweb.gentoo.org/repo/gentoo.git/tree/sys-cluster/ceph/ceph-1= 3.2.2-r2.ebuild?id=3D5f77c21f23bf1c4cfb9e68be7aa27669c8146e8e#n1 > Remember that in the US, SIE is a legal entity, so it can hold > copyrights, just like a person can. It is like "Gentoo Foundation, Inc.= " > > So, there would be two contributors in that ebuild: "Gentoo Authors" > and SIE. > >> Besides, these last three items are pretty much moot for a work releas= ed >> under the GPL-2 (which grants "permission to use"), and I think that >> even you aren't suggesting that we should go for a complete list of >> contributors. > You are right, I'm not advocating for a complete list of contributors. > I'm just advocating for flexability where contributors want it, and SIE= > is one of those contributors that wants it. > > William Could we not simply move copyright notices into the metadata.xml, and not= worry about the ebuild text itself?! --7OFXQ25XSQhlXlOLSSWFB20YIyeDv9WK2-- --HPPQCr4ISXoVCUoXSetbEplST7zmnarWP Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJb7eWtAAoJEGPnxnn01DHdMAIP/1tREt4zi6HgSqwlJumdMASe vCpVdlaZ1VY3iq5sJGcQUAfMIb8CIFZCPprIffy+JvFWpDWec95ovuBmxn/uAq/G n62LDErY+ya77Aakv5t7+N8oxl5KvXOvB/N+lIeIvqy57PrZHv6PsYK0qdzRQ8E3 +n1eqB+Q+VBUYR0wq480yg5v34MCktItIm83sTJk6mJNuq836FYZZeSWbbmUHpg3 JbXwa5b4ArYHV6HpEk9m5eRx245uqhAdvpuuhhHBbL5Cy8H43c09EWIwRISXwb5X YI5EB+2NfW5KOsa4W+ad1jNiL4MRXw5PpfEfZsHxucqRdo/jG6Fqd+3AJvPFyhaF FFuuFMMbrWDyDvpeRyyd1m8fXIWBl2MkGG2VqoQXTPXwuPaVFgocP4Y628MWXSCh GfJDDsKm+75gMynKQ6aUlTRQKFYTNkkiiB2jJA4cFP68PLV/OMM0EGqV48nRQKxd Fh+Ymr+tf/BIeFCeAXhQT62rQCn+KRw25P4col292U7Kia1AuyZBMLme849rZgs9 ORBH13j0yROLcNYc7nQwojy3mPvehf2mHhIHtAizSYyUFIezUk5stYTLRVCmp+46 iu5gf4OododPXphxAqNBWBeFjgh+hOGuwv4az9nfiamlhSRyP17WBsxsxZn+/8uQ 0cgdS16EVXzw7R8UrcrN =k4/+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --HPPQCr4ISXoVCUoXSetbEplST7zmnarWP--