From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0EC99139694 for ; Tue, 18 Jul 2017 21:36:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1129C1FC007; Tue, 18 Jul 2017 21:36:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.17.10]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 92CDA1FC002 for ; Tue, 18 Jul 2017 21:36:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.6.88] ([212.159.46.162]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue101 [212.227.15.179]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MQew1-1d42f73hin-00Tzv7 for ; Tue, 18 Jul 2017 23:36:01 +0200 Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] The problem of defunct and undermanned projects in Gentoo To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org References: <1500239562.11529.1.camel@gentoo.org> <20170719075622.293bff90@katipo2.lan> <20170719092317.7ba9beee@katipo2.lan> From: "M. 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Everitt" Message-ID: <6b7c14b1-1af6-4f10-a88b-4a02bd90705b@iee.org> Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2017 22:35:48 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.8.0 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20170719092317.7ba9beee@katipo2.lan> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="UCUXMxBi2IR6Mies3tK4au2k6xRjmp6m8" X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:J0ESONXvKeswY3ohatAHdBQsXhYKamP9cCxsm7kdZhlo30UGj2h bEi9HgPEdVsJuGwPOZOCSjMhf8FGlh/O/gPUN+Z/98BzUihhTqn60rs0srcioGDz8pKNZH+ Taemf7iAte40PBo/qIaqLSkXqhx4QxOEZJttSIqPAcwkjxBjA/bx5uEB+zohH292bTTjAvJ oMJQ4kHDuCOWzfyTi3LWw== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:K5V9+Gaipfs=:BxVTKUWV14eJK/IDwXF24w oZSijgxqK3TwLFCTjgDh4ZWgF1VsakS/RlyuEZJmjV6QsdggCAmz/hmcDAjt2VwZ9UDvVy04y tErT4U+v2THTGOo8wurczqirEHbmIJK/wM8vuJT2rAb8iPCpMqrtudYC5i0nDOaVtALksG4Qi PQftc4k8imSKr7rzcoLv9hOSHmwaihoFqeHt1vrloAjVgMxnINC4VHcE+YMi6jHwcKt6HLTc+ la83hU79GOgey4+ra9MwFr5Vk6BdBMq7a0Vhg3fpeL8xMJhipjMwv+jvcyNCzPD2tC0xx9lKP ekO+0N3ged1zH5pnA1R979JLnq5RxhLwl3JH0iGBNksz/zsjNMAL6g0CdR5O8k7SoC++X5Nch afD2REols5ZtCA4Otg1fUv2I2q/tnw+xXh6zY/GWQXjM/z6W3c/nOBdYdiZH8lVBYoc0n/h7w p3OaJ3gcUw0/vazphHg5Fpj4HTOnjGRZbtZJiXOJME3Nsm+5upFFVlGKtffjwCXaHAIQNi22F AuH9PVwYyIbKVVn69+nQRzlv5kQQMjrJHc9w+9pFkIVWDDik9xMHIqyYkPgJrN5aj+ZO2Yk+L ZPgUVCkA4hYCQWZd6cOYDvrGIFBXddGvzriVGtIIsctsPPrWJHseHuUbjvhFcv+a4pxtQS9hC ViqgerNu9R+bqF9YirL99WMmCKk7Ynn7Jw6yPeK2mqIcsVtJcxFjAzSl4OJ7vBGoTh5JoTTV5 XSQPfbZjSspfvtE4chGQurGzIwvhrbP7u6ILOA== X-Archives-Salt: 2297bb0f-62cb-488c-a243-1c40c708cf7f X-Archives-Hash: 55c30ac6f98e5a46a996c68da85db697 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --UCUXMxBi2IR6Mies3tK4au2k6xRjmp6m8 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="jU2camonaLQ8vRjVkimcAgOb390TptFUM"; protected-headers="v1" From: "M. J. Everitt" To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Message-ID: <6b7c14b1-1af6-4f10-a88b-4a02bd90705b@iee.org> Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] The problem of defunct and undermanned projects in Gentoo References: <1500239562.11529.1.camel@gentoo.org> <20170719075622.293bff90@katipo2.lan> <20170719092317.7ba9beee@katipo2.lan> In-Reply-To: <20170719092317.7ba9beee@katipo2.lan> --jU2camonaLQ8vRjVkimcAgOb390TptFUM Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 18/07/17 22:23, Kent Fredric wrote: > On Tue, 18 Jul 2017 22:12:45 +0100 > "M. J. Everitt" wrote: > >> I think mgorny was doing some general commit stats, and I have yet to >> compile my own, but it would be very interesting to see how many >> 'active' team members there were in any given project. I suspect the >> results could be very telling ... > Its not even like they're "inactive", they're just not active *in the t= eam*. > > For some, there's no reason for them to devaway:=20 > > - They're on IRC > - They commit daily > > But they're on teams they seldom do things in. > > This is probably more true the more teams you're on. Then why are you 'in' the team.. I mean, there's one thing to idle on an IRC channel, but membership does normally imply some form of contribution, no? Or is it just to make you 'look' interested/popular/part-of-the-furniture .... --jU2camonaLQ8vRjVkimcAgOb390TptFUM-- --UCUXMxBi2IR6Mies3tK4au2k6xRjmp6m8 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQJIBAEBCAAyFiEERR5DB4J2baXtk4AVu81GK0wzHTUFAllufzYUHG0uai5ldmVy aXR0QGllZS5vcmcACgkQu81GK0wzHTV18A/7BW+uzaliXvQ87Snd7eiWrwdaKCgI Fbb/6irp5aanBi6suEKhrH0acQqPbORtWnWOq6I9q+22vIHDDPNnE/FTi+bFG+RL V50EeFDzNSJOW6Ns89lQ2q0+ihdGaUamYJrH+Aguu8ftR0WrOr9zrZGqxyocqfSZ TTy/7jB4nHKtFKXRb5awo4GNpd7zuvsYdOH9QaiZg88hJMHZ+VTQ/IypweRgptsf 6DIcbdtnp++GKr9VADfyl268EXKvwJO5bQIsXmtvGtfWr7P4ZuQrox2D8hytyEIU drlmoqOZmSyF1pjLW0tOLQbizWcPCTzYlh6VotRDdU8FUirKe7rT4O5ClaUdfrye vtVYu4owyq8+OUimy4vvXdWk2E0Q/rgx62Ud9MX8VZ+MJOoM9cChO6L3HEudXqEd ZUVo4lI93oET//F6pVnpvqUhBZldp8Bykb7aPgTwLMC+igBHo5WTXNr3DqK+7yMZ 5kwmiWfIY90gxrSQ1eNJSQAIsUBpcgAvADGORjrvB9F7+hDd8I6s4GrJrrH17XT0 Xo5TiSCvsIoW+rONPh3EaJKzM3YI1QxkEbJQpSh8IuIMHcjN3nGX12ibJTad9YdQ vI23uMTFcJSPARey7Zvz+fAbdj3T1iZadbkvEqlxMiCiPaLo3TaN+fKwr9zZhatM cj1F2HZAcmRdE5A= =ph23 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --UCUXMxBi2IR6Mies3tK4au2k6xRjmp6m8--