From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0A32C138334 for ; Wed, 10 Apr 2019 07:20:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8B853E09AB; Wed, 10 Apr 2019 07:20:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 38E84E0956 for ; Wed, 10 Apr 2019 07:20:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pomiot (d202-252.icpnet.pl [109.173.202.252]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: mgorny) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3C78E340924; Wed, 10 Apr 2019 07:20:52 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <5c3f41e9d0de7ea299ef34f4b831bb2d81cf628b.camel@gentoo.org> Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] call for agenda items -- council meeting 2019-04-14 From: =?UTF-8?Q?Micha=C5=82_G=C3=B3rny?= To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2019 09:20:48 +0200 In-Reply-To: <20190410020746.GK8129@monkey> References: <232747ba-063c-821f-a66d-5f106ed2aa82@gentoo.org> <465cf0eb-3323-d71f-e6a7-862f0940f54b@iee.org> <9b6b02c8-bc96-6e5d-d99a-56e9290479b0@gentoo.org> <20190410020746.GK8129@monkey> Organization: Gentoo Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg="pgp-sha512"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-uR/iHB/zH9vb4qdZkCJa" User-Agent: Evolution 3.30.5 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Archives-Salt: dd521103-1c4a-4bfd-b594-96bd673d42ec X-Archives-Hash: 149878887f8a37631b77cb0a1164bf3d --=-uR/iHB/zH9vb4qdZkCJa Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, 2019-04-09 at 22:07 -0400, Aaron Bauman wrote: > On Tue, Apr 09, 2019 at 09:58:39PM -0400, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > > On 4/9/19 6:49 PM, Chris Reffett wrote: > > > (Picking one thread to reply to, but this applies to the discussion a= s a=20 > > > whole) > > >=20 > >=20 > > Same. This is a tough one. > >=20 > > I don't care much at all about the copyright angle. Copyright has alway= s > > been a fundamentally inconsistent concept. We all violate copyright law > > millions of times a day, and there's no way to avoid that in modern > > society. This campaign is simply doing what everyone else does in that > > regard: pretend we give a shit, so people don't see us as heretics. The > > fact that we've gotten ourselves into a logical pickle here is not > > unexpected given that we're trying to play a game that doesn't make any > > sense. I'll sleep fine either way. > >=20 > > What I do care about is that ultimately the only form of trust our user= s > > have is based on our reputations. I'm a real person: you can search for > > my name, find out where I work, who my friends are, call my girlfriend > > and tell her I suck. That's *not* what's keeping me from committing a > > backdoor to Gentoo. But that *is* why you trust me not to do it. I have > > a few simplified-to-the-point-of-absurdity computer security rules, one > > of which goes like "don't run code from anyone you can't find and punch > > in the face." To that end, not having a real identity associated with a > > developer account is troubling. > >=20 > > But, of course, I like having our pseudonymous contributors around > > fixing stuff too. > >=20 > >=20 >=20 > We all violate laws everyday too, but that doesn't mean the cop won't > stop you for speeding and then do the same when he is off duty. >=20 Now that's an insulting generalization, Sir! --=20 Best regards, Micha=C5=82 G=C3=B3rny --=-uR/iHB/zH9vb4qdZkCJa Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQKTBAABCgB9FiEEXr8g+Zb7PCLMb8pAur8dX/jIEQoFAlytmVBfFIAAAAAALgAo aXNzdWVyLWZwckBub3RhdGlvbnMub3BlbnBncC5maWZ0aGhvcnNlbWFuLm5ldDVF QkYyMEY5OTZGQjNDMjJDQzZGQ0E0MEJBQkYxRDVGRjhDODExMEEACgkQur8dX/jI EQqCVRAAizubUh1Ngf9UusooF6KpK1N7huTDViqI0qZ32mBF2XhZ17NEoxuJ44BZ o84PRdq5WMfFU5NPDbk711akqp4jNX8RntBFpGfzCWPitRHNwlfy4FeM3GuOLc42 f1591SQEqxJ8RxTQOx4EG6xr62+ywe2TR75rnm6lK/iPDXbCmVElYXI8q50ZfWnn Chh+k13jsJYZS5EuMGwLmw3zXrOZmXhOtAd/Rv2AVMq0HkmDolcgzxHtxYxK3x6y VJFTcTkbIcxvMERDIWt1kaDf2XS9DygESfqqbQQ09rAsdI1Z+WZ3DNBGfu8FiUlX fD8HvH/8I6zxUqlYdLv5v1cTq5ZCRW46myyZz29H8dhTLDQD/bquIliNcAXJAt+a qs7Ati9a4naWeIO/elupqO2xc9YzEP2lo31qGntylvu7Mj3ykxOjeSmQnDU4booW u+Rj5kz+HDdsecMLgFSak744aKxfEYo4JCllMOBLeh4eYO+ezxB4YtpxOarGlRnI qCgkzP+KccuD3gUgRUbXRwLVD9IjNIBVvMHjOuXwCwcp4Mxp+hlkUJ3YXNA0vRKf 7V1l/YVicbvXLpjhxI4PNa5gcxOEyTtOczSL54obbFbK7Ewlmq6EwL6TQGbXD1L4 Add5tlK1V5LYeNuhiBtRSm8ot6PI+Kj7Um5TDH3hgyDEMV0tGGA= =/DU6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-uR/iHB/zH9vb4qdZkCJa--