From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DD27E138334 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 2019 04:42:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B99CEE0871; Wed, 3 Jul 2019 04:42:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8EC63E0870 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 2019 04:42:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [172.16.0.17] (cpe-72-227-68-175.maine.res.rr.com [72.227.68.175]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: desultory) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 2FBF8346E59 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 2019 04:42:51 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Questions for Gentoo Council nominees: Gentoo Foundation To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org References: <86784617.NvtdGxuBOO@pinacolada> From: desultory Message-ID: <57bc51f5-bf57-6b50-f253-85f2682098f8@gentoo.org> Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2019 00:42:29 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.8.0 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <86784617.NvtdGxuBOO@pinacolada> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Archives-Salt: 61832a02-7a78-4133-be70-2244a13a05f3 X-Archives-Hash: 27d9e85e7589b2d24b2faf63b86a95ff On 07/01/19 15:34, Andreas K. Huettel wrote: >>> Yes, I understand that. However, I still believe that a contract >>> initiated between CPA and a single small-ish entity such a Gentoo >>> involves more costs than fees taken by umbrella dedicated to multiple >>> entities. Please correct me if I'm wrong. >> >> Nobody knows yet. Different umbrellas work differently. > > Sigh. I agree with the second statement. The first one, well... > > Here's the example of SPI (disclaimer, we do not know if they would take us): > * no direct costs associated > * 5% deduction from donations for SPI's overhead > > Big Hint, it helps to first research something and then talk / discuss. That's > however, rather rare on this list. > Given that the financial reports for the current year are not yet in, it is entirely true that the costs involved are presently unknown. As, bear with me here, 5% of an unknown quantity is still an unknown quantity. Further, comparing a known percentage of an unknown quantity to another unknown quantity of unknown relative magnitude is an effectively valueless proposition. So could we please avoid pointlessly belittling others and their factual comments?