From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7875D59CAF for ; Sun, 3 Apr 2016 20:07:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6E98521C040; Sun, 3 Apr 2016 20:07:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx1.mthode.org (216-82-208-22.static.grandenetworks.net [216.82.208.22]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D140A21C037 for ; Sun, 3 Apr 2016 20:07:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [IPv6:2001:470:e1cc:2:ae7b:a1ff:feb6:e2c5] (unknown [IPv6:2001:470:e1cc:2:ae7b:a1ff:feb6:e2c5]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.mthode.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 603D48678E for ; Sun, 3 Apr 2016 16:08:04 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Re: Call for agenda items - Council meeting 2016-04-10 References: <22264.15335.14348.781616@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> <22273.23505.485029.889112@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org From: Matthew Thode Message-ID: <570177E3.4030006@gentoo.org> Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2016 15:06:59 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.7.1 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="b6tGkCIONJFvMN8k38DRe7xnMfPQ2rW6D" X-Archives-Salt: fd0b4b98-53ad-4c8e-9972-63197fc56d99 X-Archives-Hash: 1ba60ccf9885edaa24b20fc5298bc419 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --b6tGkCIONJFvMN8k38DRe7xnMfPQ2rW6D Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 04/03/2016 01:40 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Sun, Apr 3, 2016 at 2:07 PM, Ulrich Mueller wrote: >>> In two weeks from now, the council will meet again. This is the time >>> to raise and prepare items that the council should put on the agenda >>> to discuss or vote on. >> >> I would like the council to follow up on the results of robbat2's >> portage repo usage survey: >> https://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-project/message/c2ffa62837fd4cbdd42= 945bf57b09b25 >> >> The following two points should be discussed and possibly be voted on:= >> >> 1. Should we continue providing ChangeLog files in the rsync >> distribution? >> >> Some facts: As of today, ChangeLog* files take up 156 MiB out of a >> total size of 390 MiB in the rsync tree, or 40 %. The files propagated= >> from CVS (i.e. ChangeLog-20*) account for 103 MiB, whereas the >> ChangeLog files generated from Git commit messages account for 53 MiB.= >> >> Even when ignoring the initial Git commit (whose message is duplicated= >> in all ChangeLogs and accounts for 25 MiB), we still have a growth >> rate of 28 MiB in 239 days (2015-08-08 to 2016-04-03) which is 43 MiB >> per year. >> >> 2. If we continue providing Changelogs, then what should be their >> order of entries? >=20 > What project (if any) is officially responsible for the creation or > non-creation of Changelogs in the rsync mirrors? Do they have an > opinion on this matter? Would they prefer that the Council make a > decision? >=20 > I bring this up because this seems like the sort of thing the Council > typically doesn't interfere with. >=20 > Right now I'm personally inclined to vote against any resolution > requiring anybody to do anything simply because I don't see a pressing > need to impose a policy on them. I'd encourage anybody who wants a > repo with different/absent Changelogs to just create one and let > others sync it as they desire. >=20 > I can certainly see the pros and cons but they don't really seem all > that dramatic to me. >=20 Infra deals with it and it's a pain to continuously generate. It'd be nice to have people just check/use git instead if they want history, but people seem resistant to change. 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