From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6261F13888F for ; Sun, 18 Oct 2015 00:34:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 02E4BE0845; Sun, 18 Oct 2015 00:34:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 789ECE083C for ; Sun, 18 Oct 2015 00:34:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from greysprite.dite (cpe-74-77-145-97.buffalo.res.rr.com [74.77.145.97]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: blueness) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D68683406C0 for ; Sun, 18 Oct 2015 00:33:58 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Call for Agenda Items -- Council Meeting 2015-10-11 To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org References: <1904237.nU16iSOlTl@kailua> <20150930204510.7e0bd29f.mgorny@gentoo.org> <20151008154237.c5b94b546444d7204ab91a98@gentoo.org> <56166864.2050204@gentoo.org> <9C591B75-DE0D-4AB6-8A6E-89FA178513BF@gentoo.org> <5616855D.8000106@gentoo.org> <20151009042132.662d0925458f8804abcee442@gentoo.org> <56179764.7070902@gentoo.org> <56179BE3.1000708@gentoo.org> <56179DE5.40305@gentoo.org> <5617A264.1010900@gentoo.org> <5617A397.3020400@gentoo.org> <5617AB77.4050302@gentoo.org> <5617AFD3.2040503@gentoo.org> <20151010215652.2a17b74b37de566dadab7b4f@gentoo.org> <20151010195901.00e5359f@googlemail.com> <20151018021418.7a9d9c40622693eb929837b0@gentoo.org> From: "Anthony G. Basile" Message-ID: <5622E8F3.2020409@gentoo.org> Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2015 20:33:55 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.3.0 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 7672ca2f-ab6b-400c-b6a7-2edc2804f41d X-Archives-Hash: 666d684787572e0d3f7291a32d7d1ef2 On 10/17/15 7:36 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Sat, Oct 17, 2015 at 7:14 PM, Andrew Savchenko wrote: >> FSF announced GNU ethical criteria for code repositories: >> https://www.fsf.org/news/gnu-ethical-repo-criteria >> https://www.gnu.org/software/repo-criteria.html >> >> We should take it into consideration as well. I really doubt that >> GitHub will be able to pass even C class check :) Such check are >> under way right now. > I'm pretty sure our own infra wouldn't pass the C check, since we > don't recommend GPL3+ specifically but do recommend other licenses > (such as GPL2+). Gentoo itself is not endorsed as a free distribution > on their site, because it packages non-free software (even if nothing > non-free is installed by default or required) - and the same is true > of Debian and just about any other linux distro you've heard of. > > Indeed, if github happens to not endorse any specific license at all > it is possible that it would rate higher than we do on the Gnu scale. > :) I think the only question is whether they have any non-free > Javascript which is required for the site to function. > > For the most part I like their criteria, but their social contract is > not quite the same as our own. > > That said, I'm interested in their findings all the same - hopefully > they'll be specific about any concerns they raise. I suspect > Javascript would be the main issue if there is one (I'm just referring > to their grade of C - I doubt it would score higher). > Andrew thanks for this. Its nice to see that open source communities outside of our own are engaging similar concerns. Let's keep an eye on what the FSF and GNU have to say about github. Rich, they are purists, and we don't have to follow their guidelines to the letter, but they may provide useful insight. -- Anthony G. Basile, Ph.D. Gentoo Linux Developer [Hardened] E-Mail : blueness@gentoo.org GnuPG FP : 1FED FAD9 D82C 52A5 3BAB DC79 9384 FA6E F52D 4BBA GnuPG ID : F52D4BBA