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From: hasufell <hasufell@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Gentoo, GitHub, and the Social Contract
Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2015 03:26:57 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <54E16381.8020409@gentoo.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGfcS_nAnfXzE-=1KAdZdPsYbt6-5VFF2hKzJhEfjOgxVt_RrQ@mail.gmail.com>

Rich Freeman:
> On Sat, Feb 14, 2015 at 9:42 PM, hasufell <hasufell@gentoo.org> wrote:
>> Andreas K. Huettel:
>>>
>>> * The Gentoo Social Contract states [1]:
>>> "Gentoo will never depend upon a piece of software or metadata unless it
>>> conforms to the GNU General Public License, the GNU Lesser General Public
>>> License, the Creative Commons - Attribution/Share Alike or some other license
>>> approved by the Open Source Initiative (OSI)."
>>>
>>
>> This has already been violated numerous times, including the development
>> of emul-linux-x86-* packages.
>>
> 
> A principle being violated in the past isn't a good reason to simply
> abandon it.  Principles like this one are always going to be hard to
> hit 100%, but that doesn't mean that we shouldn't do the best we can.
> 
> That said, I don't really see how the 32-bit packages violate this.
> If they happen to include non-FOSS that really isn't GENTOO depending
> on them.  I don't think anything essential in Gentoo depends on any
> non-FOSS components of any packages in the tree.  Having non-stuff in
> the tree isn't the same as depending on them.  Neither is having a
> random package that depends on a non-free package - we're talking
> about GENTOO depending on something, not a random package in the tree.
> 
> If some project wanted to ONLY accept contributions via pull requests
> on github, then I could start seeing some concern.
> 

Scripts no one can read except the team (even after being asked to
publish them) is by definition propriety software. It was used to
develop and package emul-linux-x86-* packages until this very day.

No one cared, at any time. I just find this a bit confusing, because of
the sudden bikeshed about github which IS already widely used in gentoo
(whether everyone likes it or not).

Git is distributed, so I do not see a single reason to SOLELY depend on
github. I'm not sure why people confuse this. If we don't, then ~95% of
this discussion becomes obsolete.


  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-02-16  3:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 85+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-02-14 20:48 [gentoo-project] Gentoo, GitHub, and the Social Contract Andreas K. Huettel
2015-02-14 20:55 ` Anthony G. Basile
2015-02-14 21:09   ` Kristian Fiskerstrand
2015-02-14 21:23     ` Alexander Berntsen
2015-02-14 21:25 ` Andrew Savchenko
2015-02-14 21:37 ` Rich Freeman
2015-02-14 21:42   ` Kristian Fiskerstrand
2015-02-14 21:56     ` Rich Freeman
2015-02-14 22:08       ` Alexander Berntsen
2015-02-14 22:13         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2015-02-14 22:23           ` Alexander Berntsen
2015-02-14 22:31             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2015-02-14 22:35               ` Andrew Savchenko
2015-02-14 22:40                 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2015-02-14 23:10                   ` Daniel Campbell
2015-02-14 23:15                     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2015-02-15 13:03                       ` Andrew Savchenko
2015-02-15 17:30                         ` NP Hardass
2015-02-15 17:43                           ` Alexey Lapitsky
2015-02-15 19:24                             ` Rich Freeman
2015-02-17  9:07                             ` Robin H. Johnson
2015-02-14 23:13                   ` Andrew Savchenko
2015-02-14 23:19                     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2015-02-15 13:02                       ` Andrew Savchenko
2015-02-14 23:36                 ` Rich Freeman
2015-02-15 12:55                   ` Andrew Savchenko
2015-02-15  5:54                 ` Michał Górny
2015-02-15 12:45                   ` Andrew Savchenko
2015-02-15  2:23   ` Mart Raudsepp
2015-02-15  2:57     ` Ben de Groot
2015-02-15 10:09       ` Markos Chandras
2015-02-15 13:17       ` Dirkjan Ochtman
2015-02-15  9:55     ` Alexey Lapitsky
2015-02-15 12:39       ` Andrew Savchenko
2015-02-15 13:50         ` Michał Górny
2015-02-15 15:05           ` Andrew Savchenko
2015-02-15 15:21             ` Michał Górny
2015-02-15 17:01             ` Anthony G. Basile
2015-02-15 15:27         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2015-02-15 13:03     ` Patrick Lauer
2015-02-15  2:15 ` Matthew Thode
2015-02-15  6:00   ` Michał Górny
2015-02-15  6:20     ` Matthew Thode
2015-02-15 12:29     ` Andrew Savchenko
2015-02-15  2:42 ` hasufell
2015-02-15  4:12   ` Rich Freeman
2015-02-15 12:23     ` Andrew Savchenko
2015-02-16  3:26     ` hasufell [this message]
2015-02-16 11:19       ` Rich Freeman
2015-02-17  6:37         ` Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
2015-02-17 11:55           ` Rich Freeman
2015-02-17 14:01             ` Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
2015-02-18  4:14       ` Dean Stephens
2015-02-18 17:56         ` hasufell
2015-02-18 18:05           ` Matt Turner
2015-02-18 18:47             ` hasufell
2015-02-18 19:19               ` Matt Turner
2015-02-18 22:09                 ` Rich Freeman
2015-02-20 21:05                   ` hasufell
2015-02-21  0:19                     ` Rich Freeman
2015-02-20  4:49               ` Dean Stephens
2015-02-15  6:04 ` Michał Górny
2015-02-15 16:17   ` Anthony G. Basile
2015-02-15 17:42     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2015-02-15 18:39       ` Anthony G. Basile
2015-02-15 19:08         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2015-02-15 19:23           ` Seemant Kulleen
2015-02-16 13:43             ` Anthony G. Basile
2015-02-16 22:14               ` Michael Jones
2015-02-17  6:52                 ` Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
2015-02-17 14:18                   ` Andrew Savchenko
2015-02-18  2:19                     ` hasufell
2015-02-16 13:28           ` Anthony G. Basile
2015-02-15 23:24       ` Patrick Lauer
2015-02-16  0:06         ` Rich Freeman
2015-02-17  6:48           ` Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
2015-02-17  9:01   ` Robin H. Johnson
2015-02-17 12:10     ` Rich Freeman
2015-02-18  3:47       ` [gentoo-project] Infra Kickstarter? Robin H. Johnson
2015-02-18 13:30         ` Pavlos Ratis
2015-02-19  0:31         ` Andreas K. Huettel
2015-02-19 12:16         ` vivo75
2015-02-26  8:38         ` Patrick Lauer
2015-02-15 11:06 ` [gentoo-project] Gentoo, GitHub, and the Social Contract Amadeusz Żołnowski
2015-02-15 12:18   ` Andrew Savchenko

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