From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D5AC1389F5 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2014 11:43:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BC822E0E77; Mon, 17 Nov 2014 11:43:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3C298E0E70 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2014 11:43:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.2] (e181255194.adsl.alicedsl.de [85.181.255.194]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: mrueg) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1CD1034057F for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2014 11:43:35 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <5469DF64.2040809@gentoo.org> Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2014 12:43:32 +0100 From: =?UTF-8?B?TWFudWVsIFLDvGdlcg==?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Re: Gentoo Recruiters need your help! References: <54665115.3060706@gentoo.org> <54675866.1080506@gentoo.org> <54676A96.4080803@gentoo.org> <5468D57B.80906@gentoo.org> <5468D6E5.2010601@gentoo.org> <5468D926.3030703@gentoo.org> <5468DCAA.6080305@gentoo.org> <5469C26D.7070107@gentoo.org> <5469CAF6.2090504@gentoo.org> <5469CD91.3040503@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <5469CD91.3040503@gentoo.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Archives-Salt: 959f81ad-926b-43d6-bad3-a80093abac88 X-Archives-Hash: c694bce22cd5a3a96e782b1740fbf43a -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 On 17.11.2014 11:27, Justin (jlec) wrote: > On 17/11/14 11:16, Manuel Rüger wrote: >> On 17.11.2014 10:39, Justin (jlec) wrote: >>> On 16/11/14 18:19, Mikle Kolyada wrote: After all, i noticed, >>>> not all new developers understand what they must to do ( i >>>> have an example, but it's another discussion) >> >>> It is crucial that report such things to us so that we can >>> guide the mentors more closely. Thanks. >> >> >> I know the recruiters teams is short on time, but feedback to >> mentors is really appreciated (at least I do). Maybe you could >> push a short mail to the mentors after you set up the new dev? >> This could include the recruiter-reviewed quizzes (so the mentor >> can diff with the one she or he reviewed. Better prereviews means >> less work for the recruiters) and a note that the mentor has to >> check the commits of the new dev in the first month (this should >> be already known by the mentor, but a subtle hint doesn't harm. >> Maybe add some best practices for that). >> > > Hi Manuel, > > when the recruitment is done, you should get notified through the > bug tracker and by your mentee that the real business starts. There > is not additional mail required. Your mentee also can provide you > all the information like fixed quizzes, review session logs etc. > > Justin > Hi Justin, I'm aware of that, but I doubt many mentors will ask their mentees for this information, so this becomes a push-vs-pull problem. Looking into the webapp, I get the feeling that mentors have different levels of expectations what's an acceptable answer. Some accept really brief answers, others "torture" their mentees in detail. I'm sure you as a recruiter know better if my assumption is valid. So at least mentors that accept brief answers could profit from reading recruiter-reviewed quizzes. An alternative to this would be expanding the webapp to show minimal requirements for each answer to the mentor. Maybe Manuel -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0 iQJ8BAEBCgBmBQJUad9kXxSAAAAAAC4AKGlzc3Vlci1mcHJAbm90YXRpb25zLm9w ZW5wZ3AuZmlmdGhob3JzZW1hbi5uZXQ4MDA1RERERkM0ODM2QkE4MEY3NzY0N0M1 OEZCQTM2QzhEOUQ2MzVDAAoJEFj7o2yNnWNc4GsP/1nfaKvihFKgkEi7YmrU22Bk PqIdsy44e/CMRQ1u+A55InrvJ1h8MnRF8uHVCd29s/25r1n1ABqdk8S9gGuqHpnU vBiwb0ZSjgqLUPP01l5uolMsZxCeFS6g9hPM7FpEe4yIBlYca2uY604e5ib3bWCM imxCUWY3vTpQ2GelphRW3ityCYpFAE9a0kqhT2gsGdm5tNUbcp6zkRURHIbUMC46 TjaNR39ALLutnWaDE0KusfRh9pKES74o9BoApV16XyrT/w2fvXw4jXIqAItdPIfD ucazpidfy+HwdsQ+T5+vPFRslawpWy+GXnbw0StCA/HCLOs6JEi25umxAd8aryam 5bsnLTsKTEXuNYS/ciUytjF3xAkUshHsYroNKENBevol891hvSTmqMRS9hvcXNN3 0IqLeMEAQDmlEdwc7RhijnjAZSxZJWl1VCBzNa/zc4p5knIk43PxGNbz4WRQB1kv gfOOrrYVeN40lF1H/Q7lsIlwj787pNqQtXrr5NiMvw0VP74E1eXsMKJoK6whslbD uQFaJjHEzF7eIwPCx+1AEVMQy7irJu5bolR9rjz8N/ohBsJJHf9zK0MNiI7Kndgu UTQQf4juq8VQsx7Ow57t3pkra6AfYJJNXGaZ4sF2Ch5FL1abH0GqXbNWUeYLrQtS bBWXvBEYSAKZzmE8OR13 =HWYC -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----