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From: Samuli Suominen <ssuominen@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Re: Call for agenda items - Council meeting 2014-08-12
Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2014 21:27:04 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <53DBDBF8.5060007@gentoo.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <lrgiet$5a3$1@ger.gmane.org>


On 01/08/14 20:23, Michael Palimaka wrote:
> On 08/02/2014 03:03 AM, hasufell wrote:
>> Michael Palimaka:
>>> but we need something [...] to avoid unnecessary rebuilds.
>>>
>> People are already working on it. Join them if you find that it's an
>> important issue instead of forcing council votes that rather discourage
>> further efforts.
>>
>>
> Where are they working on it? We wouldn't have half this issue in the
> first place if things were happening out in the open instead of behind
> closed doors.
>
>

The workflow seems to have been...

1. Declare dynamic deps a /bug/
2. Tell people it will be disabled by force, without getting council
involved, and be quite rude about it...
3. Work on some replacement for the feature, development done mostly
silently,
    in a way most people didn't even know about it

When it should have been...

1. Work on some replacement for the feature, announce some design specifics
    of it in the ML, and explain it will be the replacement for the
dynamic deps
   which will be disabled as redudant. Get people involved with good
spirits.

(The above message is written as approx. and is not to be taken
literally or as an offense of anykind. Just saying
there was no need to get people up in arms if the plan was to provide
replacing feature all along.)

- Samuli


  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-08-01 18:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-07-29  9:18 [gentoo-project] Call for agenda items - Council meeting 2014-08-12 Ulrich Mueller
2014-07-29 12:06 ` Pacho Ramos
2014-07-29 19:22   ` Michał Górny
2014-08-02  9:23     ` Pacho Ramos
2014-08-03  4:18       ` Samuli Suominen
2014-08-03  6:45         ` Michał Górny
2014-08-03  8:55         ` Ulrich Mueller
2014-08-03 10:04           ` Samuli Suominen
2014-08-03 10:11             ` Ulrich Mueller
2014-08-03 10:35               ` Samuli Suominen
2014-08-05  3:29                 ` William Hubbs
2014-08-03 10:46               ` Michał Górny
2014-07-29 22:59 ` [gentoo-project] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] " Patrick McLean
2014-07-30 10:35   ` Ulrich Mueller
2014-07-30 13:47     ` hasufell
2014-07-30 13:50       ` hasufell
2014-07-30  7:26 ` [gentoo-project] " Michał Górny
2014-07-30 10:28   ` Alexander Berntsen
2014-07-30 11:44     ` Andrew Savchenko
2014-07-30 13:48       ` Michał Górny
2014-07-30 13:48       ` Alexander Berntsen
2014-07-31  7:36         ` Andrew Savchenko
2014-08-02 10:01           ` Michał Górny
2014-08-02 11:53             ` hasufell
2014-07-30 16:23       ` Andreas K. Huettel
2014-07-31  7:21         ` Andrew Savchenko
2014-07-31  9:41           ` Patrick Lauer
2014-07-30 11:04   ` Andreas K. Huettel
     [not found]     ` <CA+rTEUPff5TOCuF=W5KQmD_Nq44ksEb=zKD8G3k2h72T4uUBAA@mail.gmail.com>
2014-07-30 18:15       ` Andreas K. Huettel
2014-07-31 10:53         ` Rich Freeman
2014-07-31 11:40           ` [gentoo-project] " Michael Palimaka
2014-07-31 11:49           ` [gentoo-project] " hasufell
2014-08-01  0:29             ` Rich Freeman
2014-07-31 18:03           ` Re: " Denis Dupeyron
2014-07-31 18:17             ` Seemant Kulleen
2014-07-31 18:43               ` Denis Dupeyron
2014-07-31 18:47               ` [gentoo-project] " Michael Palimaka
2014-07-31 18:51             ` [gentoo-project] " hasufell
2014-07-31 18:57               ` Denis Dupeyron
2014-07-31 19:03                 ` hasufell
2014-08-02 11:24           ` Michał Górny
2014-07-31 14:40 ` [gentoo-project] " Michael Palimaka
2014-07-31 14:59   ` Samuli Suominen
2014-07-31 15:26     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2014-07-31 15:55     ` hasufell
2014-07-31 15:25   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2014-07-31 16:07   ` Alexander Berntsen
2014-08-01  0:34     ` Rich Freeman
2014-08-01 11:51       ` Alexander Berntsen
2014-08-01 12:44         ` Rich Freeman
2014-08-01 12:57           ` Ciaran McCreesh
2014-08-01 13:03           ` hasufell
2014-08-01 13:24             ` Rich Freeman
2014-08-01 13:33               ` Seemant Kulleen
2014-08-01 13:39                 ` Rich Freeman
2014-08-01 13:37               ` Ciaran McCreesh
2014-08-01 14:00                 ` Rich Freeman
2014-08-01 14:35                   ` hasufell
2014-08-01 15:05                     ` Rich Freeman
2014-08-02 12:05                       ` hasufell
2014-08-01 16:23                     ` Michael Palimaka
2014-08-01 16:42                       ` hasufell
2014-08-02 15:04                   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2014-07-31 19:12   ` Michał Górny
2014-07-31 19:32     ` Samuli Suominen
2014-07-31 19:36       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2014-08-01  2:17     ` Rich Freeman
2014-08-01  6:51       ` Michał Górny
2014-08-01  9:31         ` Rich Freeman
2014-08-01 20:55           ` Michał Górny
2014-08-01 16:54       ` Michael Palimaka
2014-08-01 17:03         ` hasufell
2014-08-01 17:23           ` Michael Palimaka
2014-08-01 17:37             ` hasufell
2014-08-01 18:09               ` Michael Palimaka
2014-08-01 18:27             ` Samuli Suominen [this message]
2014-08-13  9:15               ` Tom Wijsman
2014-08-01 19:40     ` Michael Palimaka
2014-08-01 19:47       ` Michał Górny
2014-08-05  8:49 ` [gentoo-project] " Michał Górny
2014-08-05 10:25   ` Ulrich Mueller
2014-08-05 20:51     ` Michał Górny

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