From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01C891392EF for ; Mon, 7 Jul 2014 00:58:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 05C28E0875; Mon, 7 Jul 2014 00:58:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 65547E0844 for ; Mon, 7 Jul 2014 00:58:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 127.0.0.1 (exit-01a.noisetor.net [173.254.216.66]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: hasufell) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C287D33FB12 for ; Mon, 7 Jul 2014 00:58:07 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <53B9F093.1020106@gentoo.org> Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2014 00:57:55 +0000 From: hasufell Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Gentoo Council 2014 / 2015 election References: <539BD2E2.7030803@gentoo.org> <3677509.vVmt2iqRkA@kailua> <53B53E12.10209@opensource.dyc.edu> <1827087.o57vyRvkxh@kailua> <53B58E33.5010906@gentoo.org> <53B6834C.5050003@gentoo.org> <53B83BB5.9030609@gentoo.org> <53B92F00.2010502@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <53B92F00.2010502@gentoo.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: bb880413-d35d-4ad5-9de7-a8ae6038ea5b X-Archives-Hash: a02b51c03d6da2cb97f7d0bbc96b06af Anthony G. Basile: > On 07/05/14 13:53, hasufell wrote: >> Denis Dupeyron: >>> On Fri, Jul 4, 2014 at 10:12 AM, Rich Freeman wrote: >>>> ComRel and especially Infra are less broken and thus we shouldn't be >>>> in as much of a rush to "fix" them. >>> >>> So, comrel and infra are less broken than QA, but they are broken. And >>> it's not in so much of a rush but they need to be fixed. I take it >>> you're going to join those two teams and help then. Judging by the >>> copious amount and length of your emails on our lists, it looks like >>> you have a lot of time on your hands. It's totally understandable >>> that, council being what it is, you're in need for more action. >>> >>> Denis. >>> >> >> I'm not sure if you are aware that rich0 is one of the very few active >> council members. > > That is not fair. My sense of the council this year is that we worked > very well together and got stuff done. Also, we were evenly handed with > situations that came forward and squashed some of the fires regarding QA > and ComRel last year. > See the next sentence which explains what I mean with "active". >> >> Active in the sense that he actually gets involved (both publicly and >> privately), not only in technical discussions, but also in delicate >> problems in the past where ComRel itself wasn't properly organized and >> most people tried to avoid a very heated discussion. >> It almost seems rich0 has taken over some of the "moderation" work which >> maybe should be ComRel work instead, but currently isn't. So... IMO, >> your point misses reality in more than one way. >> > > I don't know of any situation where the council has > not responded to a request. > Me neither. I'm not sure what you did misunderstand here. I defined what I meant with active and there are not many council members who are active in that sense. That's a fact. And my opinion is that this needs improvement, which is why I disagree with Denis, strongly.