From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C84B13877A for ; Sun, 6 Jul 2014 11:10:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E00C2E07FD; Sun, 6 Jul 2014 11:10:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2BDB2E07DD for ; Sun, 6 Jul 2014 11:10:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.3.7] (cpe-74-77-145-97.buffalo.res.rr.com [74.77.145.97]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: blueness) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1A97433FABB for ; Sun, 6 Jul 2014 11:10:54 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <53B92F00.2010502@gentoo.org> Date: Sun, 06 Jul 2014 07:12:00 -0400 From: "Anthony G. Basile" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Gentoo Council 2014 / 2015 election References: <539BD2E2.7030803@gentoo.org> <3677509.vVmt2iqRkA@kailua> <53B53E12.10209@opensource.dyc.edu> <1827087.o57vyRvkxh@kailua> <53B58E33.5010906@gentoo.org> <53B6834C.5050003@gentoo.org> <53B83BB5.9030609@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <53B83BB5.9030609@gentoo.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 6e0a9f86-2bee-4083-bc29-94f49ffceb2f X-Archives-Hash: bfce37a674dd69bf68f00133f2872ffb On 07/05/14 13:53, hasufell wrote: > Denis Dupeyron: >> On Fri, Jul 4, 2014 at 10:12 AM, Rich Freeman wrote: >>> ComRel and especially Infra are less broken and thus we shouldn't be >>> in as much of a rush to "fix" them. >> >> So, comrel and infra are less broken than QA, but they are broken. And >> it's not in so much of a rush but they need to be fixed. I take it >> you're going to join those two teams and help then. Judging by the >> copious amount and length of your emails on our lists, it looks like >> you have a lot of time on your hands. It's totally understandable >> that, council being what it is, you're in need for more action. >> >> Denis. >> > > I'm not sure if you are aware that rich0 is one of the very few active > council members. That is not fair. My sense of the council this year is that we worked very well together and got stuff done. Also, we were evenly handed with situations that came forward and squashed some of the fires regarding QA and ComRel last year. > > Active in the sense that he actually gets involved (both publicly and > privately), not only in technical discussions, but also in delicate > problems in the past where ComRel itself wasn't properly organized and > most people tried to avoid a very heated discussion. > It almost seems rich0 has taken over some of the "moderation" work which > maybe should be ComRel work instead, but currently isn't. So... IMO, > your point misses reality in more than one way. > > Actually, I'd have to look at the project page in order to know who is > on the council right now, because most don't get involved and I only > have ~2 names in mind. > > Also, the gentoo habit of not responding is very common. I hope we don't > get more of that in the council, but people who are active, involved and > have more to offer than just the oldtimer-badge. Please distinguish between not responding when a message is aimed at you (eg. a bug report on your package) and not joining in long threaded discussions. I tend to avoid the latter but not a request aimed at me or any team I'm on. I don't know of any situation where the council has not responded to a request. > > But I don't want to look like a campaign manager here. I just think you > hit the wrong spot. > -- Anthony G. Basile, Ph.D. Gentoo Linux Developer [Hardened] E-Mail : blueness@gentoo.org GnuPG FP : 1FED FAD9 D82C 52A5 3BAB DC79 9384 FA6E F52D 4BBA GnuPG ID : F52D4BBA