From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17A5413877A for ; Fri, 4 Jul 2014 10:35:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 96D50E0839; Fri, 4 Jul 2014 10:35:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BBDC4E0838 for ; Fri, 4 Jul 2014 10:35:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.4] (unknown [114.91.185.130]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: patrick) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B5FFA335DE5 for ; Fri, 4 Jul 2014 10:35:15 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <53B6834C.5050003@gentoo.org> Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2014 18:34:52 +0800 From: Patrick Lauer User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Gentoo Council 2014 / 2015 election References: <539BD2E2.7030803@gentoo.org> <3677509.vVmt2iqRkA@kailua> <53B53E12.10209@opensource.dyc.edu> <1827087.o57vyRvkxh@kailua> <53B58E33.5010906@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 189cd9ac-5110-4d5f-82f5-1472e8dc8ee3 X-Archives-Hash: 00cee6ef1bbc7127c339dc21d5b28b30 On 07/04/14 08:59, Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto wrote: > On Thu, 3 Jul 2014, Anthony G. Basile wrote: > >> On 07/03/14 09:47, Andreas K. Huettel wrote: >>> Am Donnerstag 03 Juli 2014, 07:27:14 schrieb Anthony G. Basile: >>> >>> > > Hi Andreas, >>> > > >>> > > ComRel has acted in a way that some devs think was "unfair" and >>> they >>> > have asked the council to censure comrel. You were one of the people >>> > who voted for the allegedly unfair action. In all good >>> conscience, you >>> > think it was the right thing to do. How do you vote on the >>> council? Do >>> > you criticize comrel or do you uphold their decision? >>> > > >>> >>> Abstain. >>> >> >> Exactly, so the conflict of interest exists and there is no way to >> make it go away. You just maintain your integrity by not entering >> into it, ie abstain. The community's confidence in the individual in >> question is not compromised and the final decision is respected. > > The potential for "conflict of interests" is the reason any candidate > that is a member of ComRel (in the past devrel) gets flagged, so that > voters are aware of that. That is the same reason Trustees are flagged. > This fear of a ComRel "cabal" in my view seems to have been born of a > fear or distrust of some developers, mostly more recent developers, that > either don't know or don't understand ComRel and tend to see if as a > "old men club" that is "closed" to them. I think it's a pity such a > sentiment was born and has grown. Blame your predecessors who followed a scorched earth policy - it'll take lots of time to gain trust