From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9C951392EF for ; Tue, 1 Jul 2014 18:30:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6697CE0960; Tue, 1 Jul 2014 18:30:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D5D24E0912 for ; Tue, 1 Jul 2014 18:30:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 127.0.0.1 (tor-exit0-readme.dfri.se [171.25.193.20]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: hasufell) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B4CB1340225 for ; Tue, 1 Jul 2014 18:30:23 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <53B2FE38.7040508@gentoo.org> Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2014 18:30:16 +0000 From: hasufell Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Gentoo Council 2014 / 2015 election References: <539BD2E2.7030803@gentoo.org> <1757239.UAu395ci7F@kailua> <53B2E4CA.1080408@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 5d8df6b3-3322-4c17-886e-cb838e2b955a X-Archives-Hash: a3f3e946bc5e6678b02db66d5194a9ca Rich Freeman: > On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 12:41 PM, hasufell wrote: >> >> From what I see you are on both council and comrel. I think that is a >> conflict of interest. >> > > The term "conflict of interest" gets thrown around rather loosely IMHO. > > A conflict of interest is when somebody stands to personally gain from > a decision. If somebody on the council or comrel banned you from an > IRC channel, and you brought this to comrel, then it would be a > conflict of interest if the accused party voted on their own case. > Anything short of this really isn't a true conflict IMHO. > > Many courts will hear appeals with a small number of judges with the > possibility to appeal to a larger set of judges, and the original > judges get to vote in both cases. That isn't a conflict of interest - > just division of labor. > > When you appeal a Comrel case to the Council the purpose of the appeal > is to decide what to do with the parties involved - it isn't a > judgement on Comrel itself, though Comrel should be guided by the > decision in any future actions it takes. > > Anybody dissatisfied with a Comrel decision can appeal to Council, > which is a group of 7 people selected by the developer community to > represent them. > > But, anyone is free to not vote for Comrel members. > So you are basically saying a conflict of interest can happen and when it does, everyone will actually realize it and also act appropriately.