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From: Samuli Suominen <ssuominen@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Call for agenda items - Council meeting 2014-04-08
Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2014 11:02:44 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <53425BA4.8010205@gentoo.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1782441.9eOmMZnMZL@localhost>


On 07/04/14 10:49, Patrick Lauer wrote:
> On Sunday 06 April 2014 18:10:56 Samuli Suominen wrote:
>> On 06/04/14 15:47, hasufell wrote:
>>> Andreas K. Huettel:
>>>> 5) The council encourages teams maintaining central parts of Gentoo
>>>> to accept new developers as team members and teach them the
>>>> required knowledge and intricacies. We consider this important to
>>>> ensure long-term continuity and increase the bus factor in critical
>>>> areas.
>>> Or don't accept them as team members in the first place, which is
>>> perfectly fine if you can still contribute as a non-team member.
>> I agree, new developers shouldn't be allowed in the QA team, there
>> should be some 5 year limit
>> at least as safe kludge to avoid disrespect like this:
> I wonder if you noticed that I've been a dev since 2004 ...
>
> and disrespect, well, you actively work towards breaking things.
>
> Even when told, multiple times, that you're breaking things,
>
> And that we will revert breakage when detected ...

What you told was you will impose your personal opinions as policies,
and you will use the
QA team membership as a cover to enforce it upon others.

Instead of actually working towards getting it written down somewhere,
making it official,
so there is something for you to reference, and something for others to
follow.

This is why the last team died, and now you are repeating the mistake.

- Samuli



  reply	other threads:[~2014-04-07  8:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 118+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-03-27 13:40 [gentoo-project] Call for agenda items - Council meeting 2014-04-08 Anthony G. Basile
2014-03-29 12:50 ` Anthony G. Basile
2014-03-29 13:26   ` hasufell
2014-03-29 13:29     ` Anthony G. Basile
2014-03-29 13:49       ` hasufell
2014-03-29 14:17         ` Anthony G. Basile
2014-03-29 13:30 ` Tom Wijsman
2014-03-29 14:07   ` Anthony G. Basile
2014-03-29 14:36     ` William Hubbs
2014-03-29 19:46       ` Rich Freeman
2014-03-29 23:12       ` Andreas K. Huettel
2014-03-30  0:37         ` William Hubbs
2014-03-30  1:35           ` Rich Freeman
2014-03-30  2:20             ` William Hubbs
2014-03-30  2:33               ` Rich Freeman
2014-03-30 11:00                 ` Anthony G. Basile
2014-03-30 11:22                   ` Tom Wijsman
2014-03-30 11:32                     ` Anthony G. Basile
2014-03-30 15:14                       ` Tom Wijsman
2014-03-30 13:51                   ` Rich Freeman
2014-03-30 12:22             ` hasufell
2014-03-30 15:09               ` Andreas K. Huettel
2014-03-31 16:00             ` Samuli Suominen
2014-03-31 23:46               ` Patrick Lauer
2014-03-30  8:33 ` Michał Górny
2014-03-30  8:43   ` Patrick Lauer
2014-03-30 11:52     ` Michał Górny
2014-03-30 14:07       ` Rich Freeman
2014-03-30 16:05         ` Ulrich Mueller
2014-03-30 16:27         ` Michał Górny
2014-04-01 11:46         ` Ruud Koolen
2014-03-30  9:23   ` Rich Freeman
2014-03-30 13:56     ` Joshua Kinard
2014-03-30 15:47       ` Michał Górny
2014-03-30 23:05         ` Joshua Kinard
2014-03-30 23:43           ` Rich Freeman
2014-03-31  3:13             ` Richard Yao
2014-03-31  6:07               ` Michał Górny
2014-03-31 10:56                 ` Joshua Kinard
2014-03-31 15:44                   ` Michał Górny
2014-03-31 17:27                     ` Rich Freeman
2014-03-31 17:56                       ` Ian Stakenvicius
2014-03-31 18:12                         ` Douglas James Dunn
2014-04-01  0:20                           ` William Hubbs
2014-04-01  6:32                             ` Ulrich Mueller
2014-03-31 15:58                   ` Brian Dolbec
2014-03-31 16:19                     ` [semi-OT] " Andreas K. Huettel
2014-03-30 15:35     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2014-03-30 16:27       ` Rich Freeman
2014-03-30 16:31         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2014-03-30 16:39           ` Rich Freeman
2014-03-30 16:48             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2014-03-30 16:59               ` Rich Freeman
2014-03-30 17:01               ` Rich Freeman
2014-03-30 17:05                 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2014-03-30 16:40           ` Rich Freeman
2014-03-30 23:44             ` Douglas James Dunn
2014-03-30 23:54               ` Rich Freeman
2014-03-30 23:59                 ` Douglas Dunn
2014-03-31  0:24                   ` Douglas Dunn
2014-03-30 23:47         ` Denis Dupeyron
2014-04-06 12:34 ` Andreas K. Huettel
2014-04-06 12:47   ` hasufell
2014-04-06 12:52     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2014-04-06 12:53       ` hasufell
2014-04-06 15:10     ` Samuli Suominen
2014-04-06 15:29       ` Alexander Berntsen
2014-04-06 16:17         ` Tom Wijsman
2014-04-06 17:01           ` hasufell
2014-04-06 17:03             ` Rich Freeman
2014-04-06 17:22             ` Tom Wijsman
2014-04-06 17:48               ` hasufell
2014-04-06 18:19                 ` Tom Wijsman
2014-04-07 15:08                   ` hasufell
2014-04-07 16:46                     ` Tom Wijsman
2014-04-06 20:02             ` Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina
2014-04-06 17:02         ` Rich Freeman
2014-04-06 21:22           ` Pacho Ramos
2014-04-07 11:36             ` Tom Wijsman
2014-04-07 11:49               ` Rich Freeman
2014-04-07 12:36                 ` Tom Wijsman
2014-04-07 12:44                   ` Samuli Suominen
2014-04-07 12:58                     ` Tom Wijsman
2014-04-07 13:30                   ` Rich Freeman
2014-04-07 15:09                     ` Tom Wijsman
2014-04-07 16:36                     ` Chris Reffett
2014-04-07 18:25                       ` Rich Freeman
2014-04-07 18:45                       ` hasufell
2014-04-07 20:06                         ` Tom Wijsman
2014-04-07 20:01                   ` Pacho Ramos
2014-04-07 14:52                 ` Samuli Suominen
2014-04-07 15:30                   ` Tom Wijsman
2014-04-06 15:31       ` Jeroen Roovers
2014-04-06 15:30         ` Samuli Suominen
2014-04-06 15:44           ` Ciaran McCreesh
2014-04-06 16:30             ` Tom Wijsman
2014-04-06 16:19         ` Tom Wijsman
2014-04-06 16:09       ` Tom Wijsman
2014-04-06 21:25         ` Joshua Kinard
2014-04-06 21:33           ` Ciaran McCreesh
2014-04-07  8:00             ` Patrick Lauer
2014-04-07 14:51               ` Ciaran McCreesh
2014-04-07 15:38                 ` Tom Wijsman
2014-04-07 18:42             ` Joshua Kinard
2014-04-06 17:33       ` Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina
2014-04-07  5:47         ` Samuli Suominen
2014-04-07 11:51           ` Tom Wijsman
2014-04-07  7:49       ` Patrick Lauer
2014-04-07  8:02         ` Samuli Suominen [this message]
2014-04-07  8:26           ` Patrick Lauer
2014-04-07 11:54             ` Samuli Suominen
2014-04-07 12:48               ` Tom Wijsman
2014-04-07 14:49               ` Ciaran McCreesh
2014-04-07 14:58                 ` Samuli Suominen
2014-04-07 15:12                   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2014-04-08  0:37               ` Patrick Lauer
2014-04-08  4:32                 ` Samuli Suominen
2014-04-07 14:53         ` Ciaran McCreesh

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