Re: [gentoo-project] Call for agenda items - Council meeting 2014-04-08

[Samuli Suominen <ssuominen@gentoo.org>]

On 06/04/14 15:47, hasufell wrote:
> Andreas K. Huettel:
> > 5) The council encourages teams maintaining central parts of Gentoo
> > to accept new developers as team members and teach them the
> > required knowledge and intricacies. We consider this important to
> > ensure long-term continuity and increase the bus factor in critical
> > areas.
>
>
> Or don't accept them as team members in the first place, which is
> perfectly fine if you can still contribute as a non-team member.

I agree, new developers shouldn't be allowed in the QA team, there
should be some 5 year limit
at least as safe kludge to avoid disrespect like this:

#gentoo-qa, yesterday:

21:37 <@Zero_Chaos> floppym: honestly there are a few "senior" gentoo
developers which could be shot in the head for all I care.

#gentoo-qa, today:

09:16 <@xiaomiao> if you don't ... well ... one dev more or less isn't
*that* much difference, we can deal with it
09:17 <@xiaomiao> blah policy ... it took me months just to get PMS
fixed with a two-line patch

Publicly stating he doesn't care about policies, I read that as only
caring about his personal opinion and then,
abusing the powers gained from the membership.

> Letting someone in and then starting to teach him seems like the wrong
> approach to me.
>
> We should encourage the opposite order.

I agree. Specially when some of the new developers who gain a QA
membership think it elevates them into higher
platform than others who have been involved for years, making them
stubborn, in a way they don't listen to others.

I didn't want to send this mail, but I felt I had to, because this has
gone too far.

- Samuli