From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DB781387FD for ; Mon, 31 Mar 2014 23:40:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1108FE0AB2; Mon, 31 Mar 2014 23:40:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 69FA0E09E2 for ; Mon, 31 Mar 2014 23:40:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.6] (unknown [114.91.168.239]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: patrick) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C80D233EEAE for ; Mon, 31 Mar 2014 23:40:55 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <5339FE3D.6080508@gentoo.org> Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2014 07:46:05 +0800 From: Patrick Lauer User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Call for agenda items - Council meeting 2014-04-08 References: <53342A5F.70903@gentoo.org> <5336D386.6080609@opensource.dyc.edu> <20140329143634.GA31923@laptop.home> <201403300012.55229.dilfridge@gentoo.org> <20140330003709.GA733@laptop.home> <53399137.8070907@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <53399137.8070907@gentoo.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 8236caad-3ab2-4745-8160-cf74494db9c5 X-Archives-Hash: 6e855ef464c84046caa35a367d606732 On 04/01/2014 12:00 AM, Samuli Suominen wrote: >> >> I really wish that devs would get over their differences and just talk >> about their ideas. You don't need anybody's "permission" to do many >> things around here. That doesn't mean that it isn't nice (and more >> importantly wise) to at least ask for some feedback before striking >> off on your own. > > The problem here is that 'to at least ask for some feedback' seems to > mean 'it must > be discussed on the gentoo-dev ML' for some people, even if the feedback > required > has already been given elsewhere by good number of developers (like IRC) > > - Samuli > The advantage of persistent and common channels is that other people are informed and it's archived. A discussion you had somewhere else, as far as I (and surely others) are concerned, didn't happen. You can't reference it in the future because it's not archived, and people will be upset because you actively worked around the established communication paths to avoid them. Sooo ... just drop a message here of what you intend to do, with a short rationale maybe, and then there'll be less people being upset because you don't communicate (in the right channels) Merci, Patrick