From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F8621387FD for ; Mon, 31 Mar 2014 17:56:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BA567E0AB6; Mon, 31 Mar 2014 17:56:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 30E44E0A90 for ; Mon, 31 Mar 2014 17:56:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.195] (CPE002401f30b73-CM001cea3ddad8.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [99.224.181.112]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: axs) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5879F33FC65 for ; Mon, 31 Mar 2014 17:56:46 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <5339AC69.3000307@gentoo.org> Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2014 13:56:57 -0400 From: Ian Stakenvicius User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.3.0 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Call for agenda items - Council meeting 2014-04-08 References: <53342A5F.70903@gentoo.org> <20140330103342.76108bfb@pomiot.lan> <5338229D.6000801@gentoo.org> <20140330174725.44191bc2@pomiot.lan> <5338A348.3010900@gentoo.org> <69FC69C3-7C44-4A9D-975C-0A3B498DAD97@gentoo.org> <20140331080746.25261b9a@pomiot.lan> <533949D3.9090709@gentoo.org> <20140331174421.25accb17@pomiot.lan> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Archives-Salt: cc756eeb-4fa7-4da3-989f-2ccf35ceb539 X-Archives-Hash: 0d88642118469a784d48a683cc63e73f -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On 31/03/14 01:27 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 11:44 AM, Michał Górny > wrote: >> Dnia 2014-03-31, o godz. 06:56:19 Joshua Kinard >> napisał(a): >>>> >>> In some respect, if all one cares about is free space on a disk >>> drive or how fast they can stream a movie, then the KiB/MiB >>> thing works. But if you play with bits and bytes from >>> time-to-time (and worry about byte alignment) or sometimes >>> fiddle w/ partition tables in a hex editor...you're going to >>> think in terms of powers of two. > > KiB/MiB ARE powers of two. It is KB/MB which are powers of ten > (depending on who you talk to). > > Drive sizes tend to be reported in MB/GB, and memory tends to be > reported in MiB, GiB (though they may or may not use those > abbreviations when doing so). > This is very much old "standard" vs new standard in terms of naming. For those of us that have been around long enough, Mega/Kilo/etc have always meant 1024 when addressing computational storage, as per for instance ANSI/IEEE Std 1084-1986. However, as people know this did become (or has always been) used ambiguously and so these terms were apparently deprecated in favour of MiB, KiB etc by the IEC starting at around 1996 and with formal adoption 1999 with IEC 60027-2 Amendment 2 (and expanded adoption in ISO/IEC IEC 80000-13:2008) [*] source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binary_prefix +1 for usage of {K,M,G,T,...}iB as per standard. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iF4EAREIAAYFAlM5rGkACgkQ2ugaI38ACPAM2QD/eNQIRbUTfrGAolqbCPR6fR83 Is+jgG1MClaBeBki3aoBAJVluP0Gq4fWNVdm7Dl0OoT4tL7JIMjadRCO34mn/mmn =KM13 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----