From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 345891387FD for ; Mon, 31 Mar 2014 16:06:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D2A18E0A82; Mon, 31 Mar 2014 16:06:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4173CE0A7E for ; Mon, 31 Mar 2014 16:06:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.175.71.44] (85-76-54-193-nat.elisa-mobile.fi [85.76.54.193]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: ssuominen) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E6DD633FB78 for ; Mon, 31 Mar 2014 16:06:18 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <53399137.8070907@gentoo.org> Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2014 19:00:55 +0300 From: Samuli Suominen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.3.0 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Call for agenda items - Council meeting 2014-04-08 References: <53342A5F.70903@gentoo.org> <5336D386.6080609@opensource.dyc.edu> <20140329143634.GA31923@laptop.home> <201403300012.55229.dilfridge@gentoo.org> <20140330003709.GA733@laptop.home> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: d758a7b7-ad95-4afb-b35a-a75055ad2709 X-Archives-Hash: 2ccee28d0c390d8e9c9acd68e19dbe0f On 30/03/14 04:35, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 8:37 PM, William Hubbs wrote: >> Some how we need to focus on getting people to respect each other and >> the policies we already have, and quite frankly, if they won't do that, >> removing them from the community. > Alas, we cannot afford to drive people away any more than we can > afford to let them drive others away... > > I really wish that devs would get over their differences and just talk > about their ideas. You don't need anybody's "permission" to do many > things around here. That doesn't mean that it isn't nice (and more > importantly wise) to at least ask for some feedback before striking > off on your own. The problem here is that 'to at least ask for some feedback' seems to mean 'it must be discussed on the gentoo-dev ML' for some people, even if the feedback required has already been given elsewhere by good number of developers (like IRC) - Samuli