[gentoo-project] New developer: Alexander Berntsen (bernalex)

[gentoo-project] New developer: Alexander Berntsen (bernalex)

[justin]

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Hello everyone,

please join me in giving Alexander (bernalex) a very warm welcome.

When asking for his reason to be become a member of the dev team, he
said among other things "I would be proud to be a Gentoo dev". I like it
very much, that one can still be proud to be part of this team and
community. Let's spread this spirit.

He is joining us as staffer (for now, let's see what the future brings)
to work on portage (the PM) development, where he already contributed code.
He also has been actively helping with Gentoo Haskell, which will be
another region of interest for him.
And finally he also is in contact with the licensing team.

One of the questions we asked him and where we got some impressive
answer, was

What other projects have you contributed to, if any?

Some of the more mentionable ones follows.
    bweakfwu
    F-Droid
    GNU LibreJS
    i3
    Libregamewiki
    LIMBS OFF
    ndla
    OpenRC
    quizbot
    Portage
    Project Sunrise
    PRISM break
    reactive-banana


So it seems he loves to contribute to voluntary project, which we
greatly appreciate.

This also resembles in the lines he wrote about himself.

I'm a free software hacker wizard who lives in Norway with my cohabitant
who occasionally bakes me muffins. I have used Gentoo for many years,
and am particularly interested in Portage. My main interests are
hacking, free software, free culture, computer games, interactive
fiction, role-playing games, fantasy literature, science fiction cinema,
anime, music, and cosmology.


Feel very welcome, Alexander,

Justin


P.s. And don't worry, Diego already kindly asked him to not port portage
to haskell ;).


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Re: [gentoo-project] New developer: Alexander Berntsen (bernalex)

[heroxbd]

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Hey, Alexander, welcome!

Great to see portage having more hands!

Benda

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Re: [gentoo-project] New developer: Alexander Berntsen (bernalex)

[Matthias Schwarzott]

Hi Alexander,

welcome in your new role.

Matthias

Re: [gentoo-project] New developer: Alexander Berntsen (bernalex)

[Alexander Berntsen]

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Thanks guys.

- -- 
Alexander
alexander@gentoo.org
http://plaimi.net/~alexander
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Re: [gentoo-project] New developer: Alexander Berntsen (bernalex)

[William Hubbs]

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Hi Alexander,

welcome aboard. :-)

For the rest of the team, Alexander has also added a couple of small
contributions to OpenRC upstream, and I hope that continues. :-)

William


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Re: [gentoo-project] New developer: Alexander Berntsen (bernalex)

[Alexander Berntsen]

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On 30/01/14 20:43, William Hubbs wrote:
> welcome aboard. :-)
Thanks William.

> For the rest of the team, Alexander has also added a couple of
> small contributions to OpenRC upstream, and I hope that continues.
> :-)
Hold on -- rewriting it in Haskell first. ;-)

- -- 
Alexander
alexander@gentoo.org
http://plaimi.net/~alexander
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Re: [gentoo-project] New developer: Alexander Berntsen (bernalex)

[hasufell]

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On 01/31/2014 10:10 AM, Alexander Berntsen wrote:
> On 30/01/14 20:43, William Hubbs wrote:
>> welcome aboard. :-)
> Thanks William.
> 
>> For the rest of the team, Alexander has also added a couple of 
>> small contributions to OpenRC upstream, and I hope that
>> continues. :-)
> Hold on -- rewriting it in Haskell first. ;-)
> 
> 

If you ever get excited about ebuild writing... I have a lot of stuff
that I procrastinated on purpose.

And no... you have to write them in bash. :D
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Re: [gentoo-project] New developer: Alexander Berntsen (bernalex)

[heroxbd]

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hasufell <hasufell@gentoo.org> writes:

> On 01/31/2014 10:10 AM, Alexander Berntsen wrote:
>> On 30/01/14 20:43, William Hubbs wrote:
>>> welcome aboard. :-)
>> Thanks William.
>> 
>>> For the rest of the team, Alexander has also added a couple of 
>>> small contributions to OpenRC upstream, and I hope that
>>> continues. :-)
>> Hold on -- rewriting it in Haskell first. ;-)
>> 
>> 
>
> If you ever get excited about ebuild writing... I have a lot of stuff
> that I procrastinated on purpose.
>
> And no... you have to write them in bash. :D

Well, actually c99 and POSIX sh ;)

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Re: [gentoo-project] New developer: Alexander Berntsen (bernalex)

[hasufell]

On 02/02/2014 01:15 AM, heroxbd@gentoo.org wrote:
> hasufell <hasufell@gentoo.org> writes:
> 
>> On 01/31/2014 10:10 AM, Alexander Berntsen wrote:
>>> On 30/01/14 20:43, William Hubbs wrote:
>>>> welcome aboard. :-)
>>> Thanks William.
>>>
>>>> For the rest of the team, Alexander has also added a couple of 
>>>> small contributions to OpenRC upstream, and I hope that
>>>> continues. :-)
>>> Hold on -- rewriting it in Haskell first. ;-)
>>>
>>>
>>
>> If you ever get excited about ebuild writing... I have a lot of stuff
>> that I procrastinated on purpose.
>>
>> And no... you have to write them in bash. :D
> 
> Well, actually c99 and POSIX sh ;)
> 

not ansi C?

Re: [gentoo-project] New developer: Alexander Berntsen (bernalex)

[Alexander Berntsen]

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On 01/02/14 19:29, hasufell wrote:
> If you ever get excited about ebuild writing... I have a lot of
> stuff that I procrastinated on purpose.
> 
> And no... you have to write them in bash. :D
BRB, writing a Haskell ebuild generator.
- -- 
Alexander
alexander@gentoo.org
http://plaimi.net/~alexander
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Re: [gentoo-project] New developer: Alexander Berntsen (bernalex)

[Donnie Berkholz]

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On 18:57 Wed 29 Jan     , justin wrote:
> He is joining us as staffer (for now, let's see what the future brings)
> to work on portage (the PM) development, where he already contributed code.

Anyone else think it ironic that we call actual developers "staffers" 
while ebuild maintainers qualify as "developers"?

Note that I am arguing more for classifying the former as the latter 
than vice versa.

-- 
Thanks,
Donnie

Donnie Berkholz
Council Member / Sr. Developer, Gentoo Linux <http://dberkholz.com>
Analyst, RedMonk <http://redmonk.com/dberkholz/>

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Re: [gentoo-project] New developer: Alexander Berntsen (bernalex)

[Sergey Popov]

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04.02.2014 23:47, Donnie Berkholz пишет:
> On 18:57 Wed 29 Jan     , justin wrote:
>> He is joining us as staffer (for now, let's see what the future brings)
>> to work on portage (the PM) development, where he already contributed code.
> 
> Anyone else think it ironic that we call actual developers "staffers" 
> while ebuild maintainers qualify as "developers"?
> 
> Note that I am arguing more for classifying the former as the latter 
> than vice versa.
> 

I do not think so. Staffer can be designer, doc translator etc. Ebuild
maintainance requires programming skill(at basic level, yes, but still).

That's consistent terminology in Gentoo development, that existed for
years, and i do not see some obvious reason to change it.

'staffer' do not have access to gx-86, 'developer' has.
Regarding distribution itself(as we know, base for Gentoo is a set of
ebuilds, called portage tree, that contains in gx86) it is quite right
terminology.


-- 
Best regards, Sergey Popov
Gentoo developer
Gentoo Desktop Effects project lead
Gentoo Qt project lead
Gentoo Proxy maintainers project lead


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Re: [gentoo-project] New developer: Alexander Berntsen (bernalex)

[justin]

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On 05/02/14 11:49, Sergey Popov wrote:
> 04.02.2014 23:47, Donnie Berkholz пишет:
>> On 18:57 Wed 29 Jan     , justin wrote:
>>> He is joining us as staffer (for now, let's see what the future brings)
>>> to work on portage (the PM) development, where he already contributed code.
>>
>> Anyone else think it ironic that we call actual developers "staffers" 
>> while ebuild maintainers qualify as "developers"?
>>
>> Note that I am arguing more for classifying the former as the latter 
>> than vice versa.
>>
> 
> I do not think so. Staffer can be designer, doc translator etc. Ebuild
> maintainance requires programming skill(at basic level, yes, but still).

Donnie is right here. Giving people appropriate titles is a motivation
factor (see your footer gathering "lead" titles). So we should _not_
call someone who is hacking our PM "staffer" but rather "developer". And
call a translator, designer, package maintainer... by its title.
I am called developer, but I am actually a package maintainer. This is
what my expertise is not coding.

The only question do we need to have the developer/staffer title
discrimination for know who has tree access or not. And I would say no,
as there is nothing in the official infrastructure like LDAP telling us
that.


Justin



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Re: [gentoo-project] New developer: Alexander Berntsen (bernalex)

[Sergey Popov]

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05.02.2014 14:58, justin пишет:
> On 05/02/14 11:49, Sergey Popov wrote:
>> 04.02.2014 23:47, Donnie Berkholz пишет:
>>> On 18:57 Wed 29 Jan     , justin wrote:
>>>> He is joining us as staffer (for now, let's see what the future brings)
>>>> to work on portage (the PM) development, where he already contributed code.
>>>
>>> Anyone else think it ironic that we call actual developers "staffers" 
>>> while ebuild maintainers qualify as "developers"?
>>>
>>> Note that I am arguing more for classifying the former as the latter 
>>> than vice versa.
>>>
>>
>> I do not think so. Staffer can be designer, doc translator etc. Ebuild
>> maintainance requires programming skill(at basic level, yes, but still).
> 
> Donnie is right here. Giving people appropriate titles is a motivation
> factor (see your footer gathering "lead" titles). So we should _not_
> call someone who is hacking our PM "staffer" but rather "developer". And
> call a translator, designer, package maintainer... by its title.
> I am called developer, but I am actually a package maintainer. This is
> what my expertise is not coding.
> 
> The only question do we need to have the developer/staffer title
> discrimination for know who has tree access or not. And I would say no,
> as there is nothing in the official infrastructure like LDAP telling us
> that.

Good point, agreed. PM developer should not be called 'staffer' even he
has not access to gx86 - he just may not do ebuilds :-)

-- 
Best regards, Sergey Popov
Gentoo developer
Gentoo Desktop Effects project lead
Gentoo Qt project lead
Gentoo Proxy maintainers project lead


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Re: [gentoo-project] New developer: Alexander Berntsen (bernalex)

[Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto]

On Wed, 5 Feb 2014, justin wrote:

> On 05/02/14 11:49, Sergey Popov wrote:
>> 04.02.2014 23:47, Donnie Berkholz ?????:
>>> On 18:57 Wed 29 Jan     , justin wrote:
>>>> He is joining us as staffer (for now, let's see what the future brings)
>>>> to work on portage (the PM) development, where he already contributed code.
>>>
>>> Anyone else think it ironic that we call actual developers "staffers"
>>> while ebuild maintainers qualify as "developers"?
>>>
>>> Note that I am arguing more for classifying the former as the latter
>>> than vice versa.
>>>
>>
>> I do not think so. Staffer can be designer, doc translator etc. Ebuild
>> maintainance requires programming skill(at basic level, yes, but still).
>
> Donnie is right here. Giving people appropriate titles is a motivation
> factor (see your footer gathering "lead" titles). So we should _not_
> call someone who is hacking our PM "staffer" but rather "developer". And
> call a translator, designer, package maintainer... by its title.
> I am called developer, but I am actually a package maintainer. This is
> what my expertise is not coding.

Even though "technically" we have the staffer / developer title, anyone 
with a "@gentoo.org" email is a developer!
When I joined Gentoo, I was a "staffer" for about 2 years before I got 
gentoo-x86 access. I never had any doubt about being a Gentoo Developer, 
nor was I ever treated as not being one. Even though I joined through the 
Forums, before getting gentoo-x86 access, I joined UserRel, DevRel, 
Undertakers, and did ebuild work for KDE and Desktop-Effects. So, please 
don't take offense of the "staffer" category, meaning no gentoo-x86 
access, but just treat everyone with the "@gentoo.org" email address as a 
developer as they're surely working on something to make Gentoo better!

> The only question do we need to have the developer/staffer title
> discrimination for know who has tree access or not. And I would say no,
> as there is nothing in the official infrastructure like LDAP telling us
> that.
>
>
> Justin

Regards,

Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
Gentoo Developer