From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7DAD11382C5 for ; Tue, 1 Dec 2020 03:15:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 46520E081B; Tue, 1 Dec 2020 03:15:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9F551E081A for ; Tue, 1 Dec 2020 03:15:40 +0000 (UTC) From: Andreas =?ISO-8859-1?Q?K=2E_H=FCttel?= To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Shutting down the Off the Wall (was: Re: [gentoo-project] Call for agenda items ...) Date: Tue, 01 Dec 2020 05:15:30 +0200 Message-ID: <5284753.ZASKD2KPVS@farino> Organization: Gentoo Linux In-Reply-To: <20201130164650.j46wjcxzethfn6qp@hydra> References: <20201130164650.j46wjcxzethfn6qp@hydra> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1947822.YKUYFuaPT4"; micalg="pgp-sha512"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Archives-Salt: 381f78aa-01f5-4979-b1f9-956052500ce8 X-Archives-Hash: b573321ab6415b482c4396da5e11972e --nextPart1947822.YKUYFuaPT4 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; protected-headers="v1" From: Andreas =?ISO-8859-1?Q?K=2E_H=FCttel?= To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Shutting down the Off the Wall (was: Re: [gentoo-project] Call for agenda items ...) Date: Tue, 01 Dec 2020 05:15:30 +0200 Message-ID: <5284753.ZASKD2KPVS@farino> Organization: Gentoo Linux In-Reply-To: <20201130164650.j46wjcxzethfn6qp@hydra> References: <20201130164650.j46wjcxzethfn6qp@hydra> > Please respond to this message with agenda items. Do not hesitate to > repeat your agenda item here with a pointer if you previously > suggested one (since the last meeting). I would like to propose the council consider shutting down the "Off the Wal= l"=20 (OTW) forum on forums.gentoo.org permanently and without replacement. Rationale: * provides zero value to the distribution * large parts of the content are toxic and not something I (and others) wish Gentoo to be associated with * it caters to a set of users somewhat distinct from the rest of the forums (e.g., >5000 posts in OTW, <100 elsewhere) * forum moderators have made clear they are not going to fulfill their roles (e.g., regarding the code of conduct) in OTW, following a similar discuss= ion one year ago This leaves us with two options: 1) shut down OTW or 2) replace or supplement forum moderators with people willing to fulfill the moderator role in OTW I dont see 2) happen (for the simple reasons=20 * that it will be difficult to find someone to do the work * and that noone has volunteered to do it over the past year ), so 1) it is. Cheers, Andreas =2D-=20 Andreas K. H=FCttel dilfridge@gentoo.org Gentoo Linux developer=20 (council, qa, toolchain, base-system, perl, libreoffice) --nextPart1947822.YKUYFuaPT4 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQKTBAABCgB9FiEE2dlecvcVU8/ThuQ/jJJgxvbXoxAFAl/FtVJfFIAAAAAALgAo aXNzdWVyLWZwckBub3RhdGlvbnMub3BlbnBncC5maWZ0aGhvcnNlbWFuLm5ldEQ5 RDk1RTcyRjcxNTUzQ0ZEMzg2RTQzRjhDOTI2MEM2RjZEN0EzMTAACgkQjJJgxvbX oxDy1hAAmOn8LFS+2pKsKZa0ARD9xcD610xkNHT96CYhsRvMHqNnB5hSiUJKMSHL mFfNYa4gv79SUq3+UlzBCYt1YJdC74ZkuXf6n9417E6ExuLGSnxe86wnlB49kV9j M/yvuxuI+h/xFrboWjiuM7VYPelnagVzxrxwtCmZk5kBP3D+7C03LUsZ0vyUUq8o sRIXG2fQgqBIO430L3ZCRWtvLVDsNW69W9H89Jjx/qaUwsiA3RHvdL/w8K0xrQ0j FujFQ0CKreA4ZMfNHIWxE/SlHAOkjnB80AhGt52W/+bPham7KbCJiqsdIcYmJcqf Tj0dEjqtUoL3nTeqKJPdFUSkP+ZKedK/X4ccK26GBnnxBq0S/NMEBoPpI66fyA4C OeHQ+6B3SJQphnoeD6kTK1BW+6/1raPmcVAWYqocNs1b9niUjGr7JVKvxsKXJ8bl waySDkz/RUvxZKI8CARW50sPwhBZdZd/AQxnMg14qbDSSiHyeAGfbWq3hZlUSxCV Mve5rhs7cCkKpDskQDGvJdA81gnldYboL7ONRYwbvYd07/NIOiv0B8/GMWn/C09v Czn34ydGUD+rN/cWyDTLRKE4SCTegMsng0NN4Nrm7czoe42QP/jKHJJmSLTzJchk 5dV4q2Z7nA2OqVoVNVSnsnVAbkSaoLxr1yuUP0KnS8LkfxNZf6U= =D6Vr -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1947822.YKUYFuaPT4--