Re: [gentoo-project] Re: Call for agenda items - Council meeting 2013-11-12

["Rick \"Zero_Chaos\" Farina" <zerochaos@gentoo.org>]

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On 11/01/2013 12:25 PM, Michael Palimaka wrote:
> On 30/10/2013 00:22, Andreas K. Huettel wrote:
>> In two weeks from now, the council will again have its regular monthly
>> meeting. Now is the time to raise and prepare items that the council
>> should
>> put on the agenda to discuss or vote on.
>>
>> Please respond to this message with agenda items. Do not hesitate to
>> repeat
>> your agenda item here with a pointer if you previously suggested one
>> (since
>> the last meeting).
>>
>> The agenda for the next meeting will be sent out on Tuesday 2013-11-05.
>>
>> Please respond to the gentoo-project list, if possible.
>>
>> Best,
>> Andreas
>>
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I propose that the Council disband the current QA team, and call for
> interested developers to form a new one in its place.
> 
> In its current state, the QA project (excluding subprojects) is
> moribund, and all attempts to address the problem with the team directly
> have failed.
> 
> The team is predominately inactive - of the eight listed members, only
> half have any bugzilla activity at all within the last six months. Of
> those four members, after a cursory examination of bugzilla, I was only
> able to locate one that has made more than one action clearly as part of
> the QA team within the last six months.
> 
> There is no way for new members to join the team. Requests for
> membership posted to the mailing list are ignored[1], and direct mails
> apparently go unanswered.
> 
> The mailing list is dead - the only post in the last two years is a ping
> about trying to join the team. Only half of the team are in their IRC
> channel, and most of the few queries raised there are ignored.
> 
> The email alias is private, so it's not clear who will be receiving any
> queries via email or bugmail.
> 
> In its current state, not only is QA achieving few of its project goals,
> but it's actually harmful in that sought advice and mediation never
> actually comes.
> 
> Best regards,
> Michael
> 
> [1]: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.qa/102
> 
> 
> 
> 
I know this isn't officially required but, SECONDED.  And a big thanks
to Kensington for standing up and saying something.  You are not alone.

- -Zero
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