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From: "Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn" <chithanh@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Re: Questions for Candidates (was: Questioning/Interviewing council nominees)
Date: Mon, 01 Jul 2013 21:51:09 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <51D1DDAD.8050709@gentoo.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <51D1D95B.6040207@gentoo.org>

hasufell schrieb:
>>> I think we will not improve as a distro if we do not redefine our
>>> priorities.
>>> I have the feeling that our work is not user-centered anymore, but
>>> developer-centered and that concept is simply wrong and no sane business
>>> manager would ever disagree.
>>
>> If you want a user-centric distro which is run by business managers, that
>> niche is already occupied. If Gentoo tried to achieve a linear user
>> experience, putting uniformity over diversity, then we'd just become a poor
>> copy of Ubuntu. Would it increase our user base? Probably. Would it still be
>> Gentoo? I'm not sure.
> 
> That is wrapping words in my mouth or at least misunderstanding on
> purpose. Please read more carefully.

What I got from your statement is that you want to redefine Gentoo
priorities, become more user-centric, and do less things that a business
manager would not approve.
If that is not your position then I take back my above statement.

> Ofc we have our low-level principles that might not change in the
> forseeable future, but that does not mean we can ignore what our
> community thinks and circumvent conflict resolution by avoiding each
> other which is basically what that sounds like.

If conflict resolution actually means impose a change in a package onto the
maintainer against his will, then I am all for circumventing it.

> Bringing up the word "ubuntu" in this dicussion is a really poor thing.

You brought up "business" so I thought I'd return the favor. :)

> Do you hold the concept of "maintainership" over "common sense"?

I feel like I am starting to repeat myself, and possibly we have lost the
others, so unless pressed I am going to add some clarification to my
manifesto rather than making further replies to this thread.


Best regards,
Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn



  reply	other threads:[~2013-07-01 19:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-06-17 18:46 [gentoo-project] Questions for Candidates (was: Questioning/Interviewing council nominees) hasufell
2013-06-17 18:59 ` Markos Chandras
2013-06-17 19:10 ` Michał Górny
2013-06-17 19:26   ` Pacho Ramos
2013-06-17 19:38   ` Rich Freeman
2013-06-23 21:28 ` [gentoo-project] " hasufell
2013-06-23 22:59   ` Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina
2013-06-24 22:27     ` hasufell
2013-06-25  5:37       ` Matt Turner
2013-06-25  7:11       ` Michał Górny
2013-06-25  8:14         ` Tony Vroon
2013-06-25  8:57         ` hasufell
2013-06-28 21:01   ` Donnie Berkholz
2013-06-28 22:33 ` hasufell
2013-06-29  6:14   ` Patrick Lauer
2013-06-29 12:10 ` [gentoo-project] " Rich Freeman
2013-06-29 17:20 ` [gentoo-project] " hasufell
2013-06-29 17:41   ` Markos Chandras
2013-06-29 17:44     ` hasufell
2013-06-29 20:35   ` Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
2013-06-30  1:57     ` Matthew Summers
2013-06-30  8:48       ` Michael Weber
2013-06-30 10:40     ` Rich Freeman
2013-06-30 11:08       ` Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
2013-06-30 11:18         ` Rich Freeman
2013-06-30 18:52           ` William Hubbs
2013-06-30 20:56             ` Brian Dolbec
2013-07-01  0:59               ` William Hubbs
2013-07-01  1:20                 ` Rich Freeman
2013-07-01  9:32                   ` Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
2013-07-01 10:01                     ` Rich Freeman
2013-07-01 11:16                       ` Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
2013-07-01 11:36                         ` Rich Freeman
2013-07-01 11:47                           ` Markos Chandras
2013-07-01 16:06                           ` Arun Raghavan
2013-07-01 17:25                           ` Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
2013-07-01 17:39                             ` Rich Freeman
2013-07-01 18:38                               ` Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
2013-07-02 14:59                                 ` Donnie Berkholz
2013-07-03 11:26                                   ` Rich Freeman
2013-07-01 15:26                         ` Ben de Groot
2013-07-01 15:49                         ` hasufell
2013-07-01 17:26                           ` Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
2013-07-01 17:51                             ` hasufell
2013-07-01 18:37                               ` Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
2013-07-01 19:08                                 ` William Hubbs
2013-07-01 19:21                                   ` Rich Freeman
2013-07-01 22:12                                     ` William Hubbs
2013-07-01 22:46                                       ` Rich Freeman
2013-07-01 19:32                                 ` hasufell
2013-07-01 19:51                                   ` Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn [this message]
2013-07-01 20:04                                     ` hasufell
2013-07-01  9:33                 ` Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
2013-07-06  0:08 ` [gentoo-project] " hasufell
2013-07-06  0:31   ` Rich Freeman
2013-07-07 16:14     ` Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
2013-07-06 10:34   ` [gentoo-project] Re: [OT] " Tom Wijsman

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