From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 135051381F3 for ; Wed, 19 Jun 2013 20:21:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id ED9BAE0A7C; Wed, 19 Jun 2013 20:21:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 388A3E0A6A for ; Wed, 19 Jun 2013 20:21:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.154.2] (unknown [78.193.2.193]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: ultrabug) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 18D1333E5E3 for ; Wed, 19 Jun 2013 20:21:49 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <51C21297.1080602@gentoo.org> Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 22:20:39 +0200 From: Ultrabug User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130509 Thunderbird/17.0.6 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Temporary DevRel actions for CoC violations References: <51C1EBF5.3080707@gentoo.org> <20130619184924.GA5722@linux1> <20130619210423.00797877@TOMWIJ-GENTOO> In-Reply-To: <20130619210423.00797877@TOMWIJ-GENTOO> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------010807090809010105080905" X-Archives-Salt: a172c1e6-787d-4613-bf0d-2ebb541ab681 X-Archives-Hash: 1ef3ec0ac0ead7508b8214e862a96843 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------010807090809010105080905 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 19/06/2013 21:04, Tom Wijsman wrote: > On Wed, 19 Jun 2013 13:49:24 -0500 > William Hubbs wrote: > >> On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 01:59:03PM -0400, Rich Freeman wrote: >>> On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 1:35 PM, Markos Chandras >>> wrote: >>>> For me, this problem is critical. Devrel is working on >>>> formalizing a new policy, and we will announce news on this soon. >>>> In the meantime, to prevent further escalations, I will use my >>>> lead powers to request immediate bans whenever I see one of you >>>> violate the CoC[2] and ignore the previous warnings. >>> Perhaps a bit of a sledgehammer approach, but right now I think it >>> is safe to say that we're leaning far too on the side of leniency. >>> I look forward to the new policy proposals. >> Markos, I want to also publically say thanks for handling this. The >> bullying/trolling/etc has been going on for far too long. Yes, it may >> be a sledgehammer approach, but there are times when the big >> sledgehammer is needed, and imo this is one of those times. > +1; for cases that aren't worthy of a sledgehammer, I hope there will > be short templated warnings to put the developers back on track. Good > to see Developer Relations stepping up; there has been a bit too much > noise on the mailing list lately, most of those took a considerable > amount of time that could have been invested on more useful matters. > +1 thanks a lot for stepping in and taking this burdenMarkos. -- Ultrabug Gentoo / cluster --------------010807090809010105080905 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
On 19/06/2013 21:04, Tom Wijsman wrote:
On Wed, 19 Jun 2013 13:49:24 -0500
William Hubbs <williamh@gentoo.org> wrote:


On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 01:59:03PM -0400, Rich Freeman wrote:

On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 1:35 PM, Markos Chandras
<hwoarang@gentoo.org> wrote:

For me, this problem is critical. Devrel is working on
formalizing a new policy, and we will announce news on this soon.
In the meantime, to prevent further escalations,  I will use my
lead powers to request immediate bans whenever I see one of you
violate the CoC[2] and ignore the previous warnings.

Perhaps a bit of a sledgehammer approach, but right now I think it
is safe to say that we're leaning far too on the side of leniency.
I look forward to the new policy proposals.

Markos, I want to also publically say thanks for handling this. The
bullying/trolling/etc has been going on for far too long. Yes, it may
be a sledgehammer approach, but there are times when the big
sledgehammer is needed, and imo this is one of those times.

+1; for cases that aren't worthy of a sledgehammer, I hope there will
be short templated warnings to put the developers back on track. Good
to see Developer Relations stepping up; there has been a bit too much
noise on the mailing list lately, most of those took a considerable
amount of time that could have been invested on more useful matters.
+1 thanks a lot for stepping in and taking this burden Markos.
-- 
Ultrabug
Gentoo / cluster
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