From: Kristian Fiskerstrand <k_f@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org, "Robin H. Johnson" <robbat2@gentoo.org>
Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Questions for Gentoo Council nominees: Council demands on maintainers & council legal liability
Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2019 10:03:00 +0200 [thread overview]
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On 7/4/19 4:14 AM, Robin H. Johnson wrote:
> I realize that there is only a short period left in the election, but
> I've been busy with IRL issues, and mgorny's trustee manifesto [1] ascribed
> something to the Council members that concerned me; there's one
> additional good question for the Council that I'll close with.
>
> 1. Points 1a&1c of mgorny's manifesto imply that the council can
> unilaterally prevent support of any given package in Gentoo, and
> basically remove the package from the distribution.
>
> This is despite any developers that may wish to support the package.
>
> What's your opinion of the council using this offensively against
> packages? As a hypothetical, say systemd-ng comes about, with an even
> worse opinionated choices than those presently in systemd. Should the
> council be able to force support for openrc & systemd stop?
Its definitely within the purview of the council to do it, but in most
cases Gentoo is about flexibility so you don't want to. There are
scenarios where you would have to consider it, though, e.g large impacts
on others work (project out of scope), security issues , etc
>
> 2. As an additional point, can you try to give your version of a simple
> statement on the legal liabilities that the Council as a whole, and
> the Council members as individuals, have for their actions?
>
Council is no legal entity, so there is no as a whole, the individual
legal liability is somewhat limited as there is no fiduciary duty etc
arising due to this; which means no negligence claims etc.. So basically
you're left with whatever else you can be sued for as an individual, but
you're in a more profiled position so it is possibly more likely that
you will face it by some angry internet people...
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2019-06-15 9:42 [gentoo-project] Questions for Gentoo Council nominees Andrew Savchenko
2019-06-15 9:49 ` [gentoo-project] Questions for Gentoo Council nominees: GLEP 76 Andrew Savchenko
2019-06-15 10:20 ` Ulrich Mueller
2019-06-15 16:17 ` Kristian Fiskerstrand
2019-06-16 22:01 ` Thomas Deutschmann
2019-06-18 14:12 ` William Hubbs
2019-06-18 15:43 ` Luca Barbato
2019-06-18 15:47 ` William Hubbs
2019-06-24 22:18 ` Andrew Savchenko
2019-06-25 6:15 ` Michał Górny
2019-06-28 11:49 ` Andrew Savchenko
2019-06-28 12:09 ` Rich Freeman
2019-06-28 17:51 ` Andrew Savchenko
2019-06-30 4:48 ` desultory
2019-06-30 18:53 ` Rich Freeman
2019-07-01 5:02 ` desultory
2019-07-01 11:59 ` Rich Freeman
2019-07-02 4:24 ` desultory
2019-07-02 11:57 ` Rich Freeman
2019-07-03 4:31 ` desultory
2019-07-03 11:13 ` Rich Freeman
2019-07-04 4:32 ` desultory
2019-06-30 7:11 ` Patrick Lauer
2019-06-30 7:42 ` Michał Górny
2019-06-30 8:03 ` Patrick Lauer
2019-06-30 22:27 ` Robin H. Johnson
2019-07-01 1:31 ` Thomas Deutschmann
2019-06-15 10:00 ` [gentoo-project] Questions for Gentoo Council nominees: Power balance Andrew Savchenko
2019-06-15 10:34 ` Ulrich Mueller
2019-06-15 21:25 ` Andreas K. Huettel
2019-06-16 7:31 ` Mikle Kolyada
2019-06-16 15:56 ` Roy Bamford
2019-06-16 22:18 ` Thomas Deutschmann
2019-06-17 1:38 ` Kristian Fiskerstrand
2019-06-18 14:41 ` William Hubbs
2019-06-30 7:26 ` Patrick Lauer
2019-06-15 10:24 ` [gentoo-project] Questions for Gentoo Council nominees: Bringing new people Andrew Savchenko
2019-06-15 16:24 ` Kristian Fiskerstrand
2019-06-15 21:23 ` Andreas K. Huettel
2019-06-16 18:51 ` Mikle Kolyada
2019-06-16 22:21 ` Thomas Deutschmann
2019-06-19 2:39 ` William Hubbs
2019-06-16 18:09 ` [gentoo-project] Questions for Gentoo Council nominees: Gentoo as hobbyist distro Michał Górny
2019-06-16 19:13 ` Kristian Fiskerstrand
2019-06-16 22:39 ` Thomas Deutschmann
2019-06-19 6:24 ` Mikle Kolyada
2019-06-19 15:45 ` William Hubbs
2019-06-21 14:55 ` Mikle Kolyada
2019-06-19 14:32 ` William Hubbs
2019-06-20 14:48 ` Andreas K. Huettel
2019-06-21 13:21 ` [gentoo-project] Questions for Gentoo Council nominees: your achievements Michał Górny
2019-06-21 20:46 ` Kristian Fiskerstrand
2019-06-21 22:59 ` Georgy Yakovlev
2019-06-22 6:44 ` Ulrich Mueller
2019-06-22 7:06 ` Michał Górny
2019-06-22 22:57 ` Mikle Kolyada
2019-06-24 11:05 ` Mart Raudsepp
2019-06-24 11:25 ` [gentoo-project] Questions for Gentoo Council nominees: traits of a good Council member Michał Górny
2019-06-24 23:23 ` [gentoo-project] Questions for Gentoo Council nominees: Gentoo Foundation Robin H. Johnson
2019-06-26 19:45 ` Kristian Fiskerstrand
2019-06-26 21:54 ` Matthew Thode
2019-06-26 22:03 ` Kristian Fiskerstrand
2019-06-26 22:06 ` Kristian Fiskerstrand
2019-06-26 22:13 ` Matthew Thode
2019-06-26 22:28 ` Kristian Fiskerstrand
2019-06-30 19:21 ` Andreas K. Huettel
2019-06-26 22:08 ` Matthew Thode
2019-06-26 22:15 ` Michael Everitt
2019-06-26 22:22 ` Kristian Fiskerstrand
2019-06-28 23:49 ` Andreas K. Huettel
[not found] ` <20190630215422.GA22747@bubba.lan>
2019-06-30 21:55 ` Aaron Bauman
2019-07-01 7:50 ` Michał Górny
2019-07-01 9:31 ` Roy Bamford
2019-07-01 9:52 ` Michał Górny
2019-07-01 10:02 ` Michael Everitt
2019-07-01 10:04 ` Michael Everitt
2019-07-01 19:42 ` Andreas K. Huettel
2019-07-01 19:44 ` Andreas K. Huettel
2019-07-01 20:10 ` Alec Warner
2019-07-01 21:14 ` Roy Bamford
2019-07-02 12:40 ` Kristian Fiskerstrand
2019-07-01 11:26 ` Roy Bamford
2019-07-01 12:07 ` Rich Freeman
2019-07-01 19:34 ` Andreas K. Huettel
2019-07-03 4:42 ` desultory
2019-07-03 6:12 ` [gentoo-project] Questions for Gentoo Council nominees: Gentoo Foundation - Treasurer Response! Robin H. Johnson
2019-07-03 9:51 ` Michael Everitt
2019-07-03 10:47 ` Rich Freeman
2019-07-03 11:05 ` Michael Everitt
2019-07-03 11:22 ` Rich Freeman
2019-07-03 11:27 ` Kristian Fiskerstrand
2019-07-03 12:27 ` Rich Freeman
2019-07-03 13:45 ` Kristian Fiskerstrand
2019-07-03 12:56 ` [gentoo-nfp] " Michał Górny
2019-07-03 13:08 ` Rich Freeman
2019-07-03 13:17 ` Michał Górny
[not found] ` <20190703143429.yfieiru7cyykr5ca@gentoo.org>
[not found] ` <6b84c0a026551472a05e776921182ba8dae6fb1e.camel@gentoo.org>
[not found] ` <138757e484f751d567fb2702ce27de3e3e215a15.camel@gentoo.org>
2019-07-04 2:05 ` [gentoo-nfp] Re: [gentoo-project] Questions for Gentoo Council nominees: Gentoo Foundation - Treasurer Response! (part 2) Robin H. Johnson
2019-06-30 10:36 ` [gentoo-project] Questions for Gentoo Council nominees Roy Bamford
2019-06-30 16:48 ` Thomas Deutschmann
2019-06-30 20:17 ` Andreas K. Huettel
2019-07-04 2:14 ` [gentoo-project] Questions for Gentoo Council nominees: Council demands on maintainers & council legal liability Robin H. Johnson
2019-07-04 6:26 ` Michał Górny
2019-07-04 8:03 ` Kristian Fiskerstrand [this message]
2019-07-04 20:33 ` Alec Warner
2019-07-04 23:46 ` Kristian Fiskerstrand
2019-07-06 2:54 ` desultory
2019-07-04 13:36 ` Thomas Deutschmann
2019-07-04 16:37 ` Ulrich Mueller
2019-07-04 18:49 ` Thomas Deutschmann
2019-07-04 19:22 ` Ulrich Mueller
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