From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EE411381F3 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2012 09:02:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3137D21C087 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2012 09:02:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 99AAC21C023 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2012 06:48:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.169.43.67] (212-226-74-132-nat.elisa-mobile.fi [212.226.74.132]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: ssuominen) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 231CC33DAE6 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2012 06:48:42 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <50A33D67.6050709@gentoo.org> Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 08:42:47 +0200 From: Samuli Suominen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121101 Thunderbird/16.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] With regard to udev stabilization References: <50A1B335.2080907@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <50A1B335.2080907@gentoo.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 81dd7716-cdb1-4f9b-ba10-78f747f49a7d X-Archives-Hash: 04d228ec895f470ab700d05bccf2a017 On 13/11/12 04:40, Richard Yao wrote: > Dear Everyone, > > It is no secret that many of us are unhappy with the direction that udev > has taken under the leadership of the systemd developers. That includes > Linus Torvalds, who is 'leery of the fact that the udev maintenance > seems to have gone into some "crazy mode" where they have made changes > that were known to be problematic, and are pure and utter stupidity.' > > https://lkml.org/lkml/2012/10/2/505 > > After speaking with several other Gentoo developers that share Linus' > concerns, I have decided to form a team to fork udev. Our plan is to > eliminate the separate /usr requirement from our fork, among other > things. We will announce the project later this week. > > I understand that the council is scheduled to vote on a topic related to > udev stabilization. Would it be possible to delay the vote for another > month so that we have time to get organized? > > Yours truly, > Richard Yao > I honestly think you will run out of manpower rather sooner than later but good luck anyway. The stabilization of new udev shouldn't be delayed anymore. News item can be assigned to inform users sep. /usr is not possible with official udev without initramfs. - Samuli