From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1RXc0B-0007hb-5d for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 05 Dec 2011 17:06:51 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A105821C0BF; Mon, 5 Dec 2011 17:06:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B89AE21C066 for ; Mon, 5 Dec 2011 17:06:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.151.200.109] (staff-wireless.saddleback.edu [209.129.85.50]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: zmedico) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3E3001B401A for ; Mon, 5 Dec 2011 17:06:12 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <4EDCFA01.2060606@gentoo.org> Date: Mon, 05 Dec 2011 09:06:09 -0800 From: Zac Medico User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111120 Thunderbird/8.0 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Call for agenda items -- Council meeting 2011-12-13 References: <20111203103024.GN37825@gentoo.org> <201112050148.01078.vapier@gentoo.org> <4EDC6942.1070307@gentoo.org> <201112051107.37686.vapier@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <201112051107.37686.vapier@gentoo.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 895f24cf-5f0a-4d7a-b9cf-cfda0254ec4a X-Archives-Hash: 36a8ca89e9560ca2e3dec3e048aff77a On 12/05/2011 08:07 AM, Mike Frysinger wrote: > On Monday 05 December 2011 01:48:34 Zac Medico wrote: >> On 12/04/2011 10:48 PM, Mike Frysinger wrote: >>> all "failures" that don't result in an aborted build (e.g. EAPI=0 dodoc >>> on missing file) will get "missed". many of those are logged as QA >>> warnings, but it seems default --quiet-build=y will not include these in >>> the log summary. this might be useful to fix -- i'll poke Zac about it >>> if he doesn't see this e- mail. >> >> This is due to the default PORTAGE_ELOG_CLASSES="log warn error" in >> make.globals. The developer profile sets >> >> :PORTAGE_ELOG_CLASSES="${PORTAGE_ELOG_CLASSES} qa", so anyone running >> >> that profile gets the QA warnings automatically. >> >> Maybe it would be fine to enable the QA warnings by default for all >> users. I don't feel strongly either way. > > hrm. there's some QA messages i think we should have all our users see by > default (so they'll report bugs), and there's some i think should be in the > developer profiles. although, i think most are in the former category, so > maybe we shouldn't sweat it for now ? Yeah, I don't think it's a major problem. Developers should be setting PORTAGE_ELOG_CLASSES="${PORTAGE_ELOG_CLASSES} qa" manually if they don't use the developer profile. > specifically, i'm thinking of the build type warnings that we label as upstream > should be shown to devs and not users ... We could migrate to ewarn instead of eqawarn for the ones that we want all users to see by default. Alternatively, we could introduce a new log level, but that seems redundant. -- Thanks, Zac