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From: Patrick Lauer <patrick@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Call for agenda items -- Council meeting 2011-12-13
Date: Mon, 05 Dec 2011 10:18:06 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4EDC29DE.3000905@gentoo.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4EDB9F31.9020601@gentoo.org>

On 12/05/11 00:26, Markos Chandras wrote:
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> On 12/04/2011 03:42 PM, Thomas Sachau wrote:
>> Fabian Groffen schrieb:
>>> Ok, you mean the --quiet-build=y default that most recent Portage
>>> uses, right?  Also known to some as the parallel build output.
>> Yes
> I agree that the decision was made too fast but reverting seems like a
> joke to me. People will think that we are making fun of them by
> changing the defaults all the time. Imho it is too late to go back.

Great, so if I just patch stuff I can also claim that now it's too late 
to revert?
That's a nice non-sequitur :)
>
>> If this does not get reverted and if it gets accepted to be the
>> default, i would request a news item, when it goes into a stable
>> version of portage, since a good amount of people wondered, why the
>> portage output changed (default for --quiet-build was changed), why
>> it was done and how they could change that behaviour.
>>
> I certainly agree with that. People keep wondering why portage is so
> quiet.
And spend much more time trying to find them silly logfiles now that we 
hide the output. I really enjoy having to fix yet another bad default 
everywhere just so I see *why* things fail ...

>
> In any case I believe the council should discuss these problems in the
> upcoming meeting
>
Ack.



  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-12-05  2:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-12-03 10:30 [gentoo-project] Call for agenda items -- Council meeting 2011-12-13 Fabian Groffen
2011-12-04  0:14 ` [gentoo-project] adopt "sighted pages" system of german wikipedia for our wiki (was Call for agenda items -- Council meeting) Andreas K. Huettel
2011-12-04  0:25   ` Markos Chandras
2011-12-04 12:01     ` Rich Freeman
2011-12-04 12:31       ` Markos Chandras
2011-12-04 13:02         ` Rich Freeman
2011-12-04 15:14           ` Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
2011-12-04 17:51     ` Andreas K. Huettel
2011-12-04 19:43       ` Rich Freeman
2011-12-04 10:02   ` "Paweł Hajdan, Jr."
2011-12-04 14:17 ` [gentoo-project] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Call for agenda items -- Council meeting 2011-12-13 Thomas Sachau
2011-12-04 15:22   ` Fabian Groffen
2011-12-04 15:42     ` Thomas Sachau
2011-12-04 16:26       ` Markos Chandras
2011-12-04 17:37         ` Mike Gilbert
2011-12-04 17:55         ` Thomas Sachau
2011-12-04 18:12           ` Markos Chandras
2011-12-04 19:15             ` Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
2011-12-05  0:11               ` Dale
2011-12-05  2:18         ` Patrick Lauer [this message]
2011-12-05  2:49           ` Rich Freeman
2011-12-05  3:07             ` Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
2011-12-05  3:22               ` Rich Freeman
2011-12-05  3:54                 ` Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
     [not found]                   ` <CAMiTYSrQjrQhRLzO3A6WTof0+X9gBs9sL2dc4LMaE6FKV5J+ww@mail.gmail.com>
2011-12-05  4:05                     ` Zac Medico
2011-12-05 22:13                       ` Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
2011-12-05 22:37                         ` Zac Medico
2011-12-05 23:09                           ` Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
2011-12-05 23:36                             ` Zac Medico
2011-12-05 13:25                   ` Rich Freeman
2011-12-05 18:23                     ` Roy Bamford
2011-12-05 22:13                     ` Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
2011-12-05  3:34               ` Mike Frysinger
2011-12-05  3:55                 ` Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
2011-12-05  6:32                   ` [gentoo-project] " Mike Frysinger
2011-12-05  3:42             ` [gentoo-project] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] " Patrick Lauer
2011-12-05  3:52               ` [gentoo-project] " Mike Frysinger
2011-12-05  4:17                 ` Patrick Lauer
2011-12-05  6:48                   ` Mike Frysinger
2011-12-05  6:48                     ` Zac Medico
2011-12-05 16:07                       ` Mike Frysinger
2011-12-05 17:06                         ` Zac Medico
2011-12-05 22:13                     ` Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
2011-12-05 22:46                       ` Mike Frysinger
2011-12-05 22:55                         ` Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
2011-12-05 23:04                           ` Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
2011-12-04 18:13   ` [gentoo-project] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] " Zac Medico

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