From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1RXHXa-0002ID-Jk for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sun, 04 Dec 2011 19:15:58 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CCD9E21C160; Sun, 4 Dec 2011 19:15:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4568521C15D for ; Sun, 4 Dec 2011 19:15:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.178.31] (e178111205.adsl.alicedsl.de [85.178.111.205]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: chithanh) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 349C11B4013 for ; Sun, 4 Dec 2011 19:15:35 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <4EDBC6DE.2030704@gentoo.org> Date: Sun, 04 Dec 2011 20:15:42 +0100 From: =?UTF-8?B?Q2jDrS1UaGFuaCBDaHJpc3RvcGhlciBOZ3V54buFbg==?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20111031 Firefox/7.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.4.1 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Call for agenda items -- Council meeting 2011-12-13 References: <20111203103024.GN37825@gentoo.org> <4EDB80F8.1090800@gentoo.org> <20111204152254.GE780@gentoo.org> <4EDB94E2.8090007@gentoo.org> <4EDB9F31.9020601@gentoo.org> <4EDBB42E.2040708@gentoo.org> <4EDBB823.4070700@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <4EDBB823.4070700@gentoo.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4a1pre Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: c7adc5c0-3fe4-4aba-bf4f-f5ea942e2c2a X-Archives-Hash: ac9ea6ccabedcf9b720d55f1269f6f13 Markos Chandras schrieb: > All I am saying is that the change is there for more than 2 weeks. > Imho it seems suboptimal (from user's experience perspective) to go > back to the old behavior without causing extra frustration. You can check the forums thread and poll for an indication how much frustration this would create. Also the question is whether stabilizing a quiet-build portage causes more frustration than reverting the change in unstable. https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-901858.html The poll has an unusually high number of respondents, maybe an indication of how controversial that topic is. Best regards, Ch=C3=AD-Thanh Christopher Nguy=E1=BB=85n