From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1R4qLY-00080F-32 for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sat, 17 Sep 2011 08:34:00 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A977F21C05D; Sat, 17 Sep 2011 08:33:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-fx0-f53.google.com (mail-fx0-f53.google.com [209.85.161.53]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7426E21C054 for ; Sat, 17 Sep 2011 08:33:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxh2 with SMTP id 2so2784367fxh.40 for ; Sat, 17 Sep 2011 01:33:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=sender:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=XaryNB9tRZUsrbeN/+bnW7PRkwKYcCOAGvE6smGVLAc=; b=QZ3X4Xn4OxAmgXzfwwy+pfw5Nlm2AL/DOcLukTuIGvI3t8xdrFMSTqKZ0uWI2NgTMr Cxky+JqbTIwqeyRlhzy6alREtqLoKCa3t1nTuejrEeHChTdy4N/0RPiudnkF14CsQXg3 s53XTnoPMFS2W4yNcklAJRp64sPCy7ZYfwHDU= Received: by 10.223.66.88 with SMTP id m24mr756649fai.68.1316248416630; Sat, 17 Sep 2011 01:33:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.243] ([150.140.233.149]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id x22sm13598694faa.5.2011.09.17.01.33.33 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 17 Sep 2011 01:33:35 -0700 (PDT) Sender: Markos Chandras Message-ID: <4E745B01.9040805@gentoo.org> Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 11:32:01 +0300 From: Markos Chandras User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:6.0) Gecko/20110824 Thunderbird/6.0 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] ChangeLog generation: Edit generated Changelogs References: <4E735841.9070209@gentoo.org> <4E73C08B.9030801@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <4E73C08B.9030801@gentoo.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: X-Archives-Hash: 87b13e5fdf6eb1dfd010eae352b32104 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 On 09/17/11 00:32, "Pawe=C5=82 Hajdan, Jr." wrote: > On 9/16/11 7:08 AM, Markos Chandras wrote: >> Council decided to push back to ML the remaining bullet point >> about ChangeLog generation[1] >>=20 >> "should we require that autogenerated changelogs have a way to >> edit them afterwards to fix typos and such." >=20 > In my opinion we should do the simplest thing that works, because=20 > bikeshedding on this is already taking too long. >=20 > There are many successful open source projects which do not have=20 > explicit ChangeLog files and rely only on VCS logs. They're doing > fine. >=20 > I agree that there may be benefits to handling the ChangeLogs in > some fancy way, but let's be practical and pragmatic. In my opinion > it's a minor issue, and benefits of git migration would be far > greater. >=20 > Pawe=C5=82 >=20 In my opinion, we do not need to care about typos etc. We are human beings, so mistakes are part of our lives. Being able to fix post-generated changelogs will increase the size of $VCS since Changelogs need to be placed to $VCS for editing after generation and having a smart deduplication algorithm on the server side to filter duplicate messages. This is a bit stupid. If you make a mistake on your commit message, that's fine. Be careful next time. - --=20 Regards, Markos Chandras / Gentoo Linux Developer / Key ID: B4AFF2C2 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.18 (GNU/Linux) iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJOdFsBAAoJEPqDWhW0r/LC1yAP/RpRGFGjoXwEZIjtDpI6Tx3A yjD+KWLvgRR/UliI0NpBsc+OTPY3coF3dill+9q1G3LaZiwpBr2w18GXZCR9uJZ3 TuI2nPMIkRtYzH60ykRKXYcGqwC9RJWIz1kZdlfG7ych5OxuyXLkmxP/FSVRf63P PZe/MFCm9PeVLhv05jDoSqimjvh23RfQ9Cq1OrujHD2fTDzS6V/wNRDXFZlX40bU XCh+tWjkwsiPaWVZ79ttdgS0IlVPReBIyQpL8Es8o853vuhGNmftOg3yqynXLYZA tMCi3T1+W6ZpwKAM6rSj+2NegydDELt9UQThlhFEU63Nd+wAIGIOxnXPHx/w7a1p JMhrhqhxaZBziGSHQAaUQVIy8I+23hIA8W7f1d9NbePwsjOS4ZWUYQe7Ni1AJjWL e4o138FyBjip8dGFhjAdg23f2CIRQwO9ySlAwpXbQjWSMUCLY7LN8dNVmEJrCtBL LCg3XtQ8PIXH/PHwNrSfR5YnsQRR2SgFrWLa+e6kVHS66NQ+/iSLOK/6LXapVJpg EYQy4kyCKq66rxE2EkbrmoVdz/ozdzTatRPRhOcU1ApEb16qKXY7c8fkjw3mnjgT f7QyxYyvrTO2xPdqyFV+psnD8E/cqzHJ6dCPrdbDzzgKhBLspEOYSoiX3e8POm2K Tr2l5KKkSi576I9oiUr/ =3DrN9F -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----