From: Markos Chandras <hwoarang@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Council appointed leaders for QA and DevRel
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2011 17:26:29 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4E4BEBB5.8090300@gentoo.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGfcS_mpZ_pGfpB5967f3K2zh57p6DEbfUiiPHy9JFmKFfYS0A@mail.gmail.com>
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On 14/08/2011 12:35 μμ, Rich Freeman wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 7:06 AM, Markos Chandras
> <hwoarang@gentoo.org> wrote:
>> Some time ago, few people proposed to have Council appointed
>> leaders for QA and DevRel. I like the idea because this way the
>> Council can ensure that the team is active or either force some
>> activity in case the current leader slacks big time.
>
Well, to be honest, I have no clear understanding of what you guys think
about this problem. From what I gathered, it seems to me that we need to
establish a process to identify dead/slacking projects and then have the
appropriate mechanism within the council to deal with it.
Having all the project sending a "ping" e-mail to council is not a
solution. Having a bunch of people monitoring all the projects is not
good either.
What I propose, is to compile a list with projects that are known to be
dead, and give them a final warning or verify their "dead" status. After
that, their broken package shall be removed, and the rest of them can
remain as maintainer-needed@. 2-3 developers can take care of the
removals. It is not a big deal.
Personally, I want to shrink portage. There is no way for 250 listed
developers ( I would be glad if 100 of us were really active ) to
maintain thousands of ebuilds. I have already said that many many times
and I will say it again. We need to stop pretending that everything is
fine. We need to support only the packages that we can *really* support
and lets hope that more people will join in when they see their packages
going away.
I think this is quite honest not just to our selves but to our users as
well. If we keep stalling, then heavy committers will probably get
demotivated ( by trying to keep everything working ) and Gentoo will
slowly die or portage will become unmanageable.
- --
Regards,
Markos Chandras / Gentoo Linux Developer / Key ID: B4AFF2C2
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Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-08-14 11:06 [gentoo-project] Council appointed leaders for QA and DevRel Markos Chandras
2011-08-14 11:19 ` Fabian Groffen
2011-08-14 11:22 ` Markos Chandras
2011-08-14 11:31 ` Fabian Groffen
2011-08-14 11:36 ` Markos Chandras
2011-08-14 11:52 ` Rich Freeman
2011-08-14 11:58 ` Fabian Groffen
2011-08-14 11:35 ` Rich Freeman
2011-08-14 11:41 ` Markos Chandras
2011-08-17 16:26 ` Markos Chandras [this message]
2011-08-17 18:16 ` Rich Freeman
2011-08-17 18:47 ` Markos Chandras
2011-08-14 12:15 ` Thomas Sachau
2011-08-14 12:24 ` Markos Chandras
2011-08-14 13:07 ` Thomas Sachau
2011-08-14 13:38 ` Markos Chandras
2011-08-14 15:35 ` Roy Bamford
2011-08-14 15:43 ` Markos Chandras
2011-08-14 16:40 ` Roy Bamford
2011-08-14 17:27 ` Roy Bamford
2011-08-18 1:41 ` Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
2011-08-14 16:07 ` Thomas Sachau
2011-08-14 16:19 ` Markos Chandras
2011-08-14 16:48 ` Thomas Sachau
2011-08-14 16:56 ` Markos Chandras
2011-08-14 18:03 ` Roy Bamford
2011-08-14 18:50 ` Markos Chandras
2011-08-14 17:54 ` Patrick Lauer
2011-08-14 14:19 ` Roy Bamford
2011-08-14 14:35 ` Petteri Räty
2011-08-14 16:31 ` Roy Bamford
2011-08-15 19:30 ` Petteri Räty
2011-08-14 14:36 ` Markos Chandras
2011-08-14 14:39 ` Rich Freeman
2011-08-14 14:39 ` Markos Chandras
2011-08-14 16:12 ` Roy Bamford
2011-08-14 16:22 ` Markos Chandras
2011-08-15 19:29 ` Petteri Räty
2011-08-18 1:56 ` Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
2011-08-18 2:18 ` Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
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