From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Qsfmh-0007Xb-US for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sun, 14 Aug 2011 18:51:44 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2182021C126; Sun, 14 Aug 2011 18:51:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wy0-f181.google.com (mail-wy0-f181.google.com [74.125.82.181]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6249821C0C6 for ; Sun, 14 Aug 2011 18:51:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyg36 with SMTP id 36so4134732wyg.40 for ; Sun, 14 Aug 2011 11:51:08 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=sender:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=llrzQsc9VGexCgSV1ij7LMIqdk1UZUBUS4kQGENpX8Y=; b=ns47R7safz26CrAoaqJktOZL6A6nvZRQwVHaqQMHBTQD9y7NSF7qxKzOSQSR+/YEGQ X6N14DBKZDXZpwd9VnmIwr09qWQhfBw/b7xEvFKf30HX7n8Xv0Ktxa6ivZ/gt9X7aY3f C1BZd+xaYlz8Kp2uMXDNNUnB7CxbN3eo38Q+g= Received: by 10.227.128.21 with SMTP id i21mr475730wbs.68.1313347868581; Sun, 14 Aug 2011 11:51:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [130.88.185.147] (wh147a.halls.manchester.ac.uk [130.88.185.147]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id el9sm3964111wbb.58.2011.08.14.11.51.06 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 14 Aug 2011 11:51:07 -0700 (PDT) Sender: Markos Chandras Message-ID: <4E4818F6.9060803@gentoo.org> Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2011 19:50:30 +0100 From: Markos Chandras User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:5.0) Gecko/20110721 Thunderbird/5.0 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Council appointed leaders for QA and DevRel References: <1313344980.2962.8@NeddySeagoon> In-Reply-To: <1313344980.2962.8@NeddySeagoon> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.2pre Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: X-Archives-Hash: 725d25d4324df384b13abbbb3e969f4a -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 On 08/14/2011 07:03 PM, Roy Bamford wrote: > On 2011.08.14 17:56, Markos Chandras wrote: [snip] > > > That's an interesting pair of assertions. Do you have some numbers > and sources to substantiate them? > > From my view of the Gentoo world on the forums and in #gentoo, there > is no drop off in numbers of new users. Even during May and June when > the stage3 files were badly broken, new users persisted with Gentoo > installs. > Err no but you don't really need numbers do you? The number of active developers is not even close to those who were active back in 2005 and especially the number of users if not really the same. The forums are not as active as they used to be ( as I see it ). Moreover, having so many herds with one or two active developers is not a sign of activity or progress either. - -- Regards, Markos Chandras / Gentoo Linux Developer / Key ID: B4AFF2C2 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.18 (GNU/Linux) iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJOSBj1AAoJEPqDWhW0r/LCCLgP/jkec/IsYVt1w2HjtoJ9UUw2 uPB36y1OyyRnIUrnRiOe6gmG5fFyUkSPvk//8Ap/p2HZAduwgH6VcPwG0WDrv3Dh Hs9+8hL5nH015qSTUYhdok6BFPWFgb8qiNz4MDIwa1VfRaecfoa3lVd91IROrnlo xRUP8fE61tBJTd1EXrZFE2V9m8fj6ds7X/lfr9I1KBa0VRIMxn4+1vsUiTT/vEkt ZEZLIxdPil9PbewlROEammYgvYr9nsE+FzaXvIU2geN4VYfm0lpKlPYED+k83s+3 wTE5l7QHcifhRlnkx1Jo6E9RO3k2aY9A73JAS5+u3T2L3M/Gvn9BmL3cR4LEPEVN UZYGBWRZGjPdz/Yf62cwWGZBl3VMqYUezS5XVadX5zMKmnTx/dXAzkKneYq7GRU0 OmUjfI2yY5yQbMa2/z8L5T2oo7X4Xk6b485/uUW8aeFcymBybhAvwAo64yiEgBey Qb4F+8nUbUGDSP6exWCV8lwf6lNntXBRsnD0o1ZBi2aV9IDPo25P6Ny2l21uY5FY g+hPpEU3hyGevn5uUi8x8Pkuxr0NmShOFhpPP2Kvc4reTzWm8McLu5DmnkhdYSQg vs1fTKvblntap2A/vB47RHYJJcQ1R/CjfyRNhZroMuAOmDqcwOFZN4Prygr5RB/G eZfpg5l+v1fecjxc4nJP =fKpN -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----